Processed: reassign 983690 to java-policy

2022-10-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 983690 java-policy Bug #983690 [java-common] Care for FAQ Bug reassigned from package 'java-common' to 'java-policy'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #983690 to the same values previously set Ig

java-policy is marked for autoremoval from testing

2022-05-26 Thread Debian testing autoremoval watch
java-policy 0.57 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2022-06-30 It (build-)depends on packages with these RC bugs: 1011146: nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-470: CVE-2022-28181, CVE-2022-28183, CVE-2022-28184, CVE-2022-28185, CVE-2022-28191, CVE-2022-28192 https://bugs.debian.org/1011146

Re: Bug#1007923: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-29 Thread Pierre Gruet
Hello everyone, Le 29/03/2022 à 11:59, Markus Koschany a écrit : Am Montag, dem 28.03.2022 um 21:06 -0700 schrieb tony mancill: [...] I am interested to hear other opinions from the Debian Java Team. I have no objections with implementing this change and I agree that a versionless symlink is

Re: Bug#1007923: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-29 Thread Markus Koschany
Am Montag, dem 28.03.2022 um 21:06 -0700 schrieb tony mancill: > [...] > I am interested to hear other opinions from the Debian Java Team. I have no objections with implementing this change and I agree that a versionless symlink is preferable for consistency reasons. The current behavior doesn't d

Re: Bug#1007923: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-28 Thread tony mancill
s -la /usr/share/java/htmlcleaner* > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 176219 23 mars 15:27 > > /usr/share/java/htmlcleaner-2.26.jar > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 23 mars 15:27 > > /usr/share/java/htmlcleaner.jar -> htmlcleaner-2.26.jar > > Many thanks for the propo

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-28 Thread Andrius Merkys
wxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 23 mars 15:27 > /usr/share/java/htmlcleaner.jar -> htmlcleaner-2.26.jar Many thanks for the proposed patch. It seems we need a decision now on which one is actually buggy: maven-debian-helper or java-policy. I would vote for upholding the java-policy if only the

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-23 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > > I vaguely remember that replacing a symlink with a file during a package > > update was causing some issues (i.e. the target is updated but the symlink > > Wasn’t that only for directories? Seems to work: $ ls -la /usr/share/java/htmlcleaner* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 18 mars 1

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 23 Mar 2022, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > I vaguely remember that replacing a symlink with a file during a package > update was causing some issues (i.e. the target is updated but the symlink Wasn’t that only for directories? bye, //mirabilos -- Infrastrukturexperte • tarent solutions GmbH A

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-23 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
I vaguely remember that replacing a symlink with a file during a package update was causing some issues (i.e. the target is updated but the symlink isn't replaced). If that's still true I'd refrain from applying this change to maven-debian-helper. The slight deviation from t

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2022-03-23 Thread Alexandre Rossi
re fine in my opinion. > > > > This seems to trigger https://lintian.debian.org/tags/bad-jar-name > > Exactly. Thus lintian seems to follow the current Java policy and > correctly emit warnings. > > I am trying to understand if this is a bug in maven-*-helper, or a > result of

Bug#1001463: java-policy: Please retitle to "Java Policy for Debian"

2021-12-12 Thread tony mancill
conditions that provoke Lintian's recommendations. In our > > view, your policy [9] should be named "Java Policy for Debian." > > > "Debian Policy for Java" or "Java Policy for Debian", which one is correct? Why not "Debian Java Policy"

Bug#1001463: java-policy: Please retitle to "Java Policy for Debian"

2021-12-12 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
"Java Policy for Debian." "Debian Policy for Java" or "Java Policy for Debian", which one is correct? Emmanuel Bourg

Bug#1001463: java-policy: Please retitle to "Java Policy for Debian"

2021-12-10 Thread Felix Lechner
Package: java-policy Hi, Lintian cites your manual as supporting documentation for several tags. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Such references help users when grasping the conditions that provoke Lintian's recommendations. In our view, your policy [9] should be named "Java Policy for Debi

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2021-10-18 Thread Andrius Merkys
oth styles are fine in my opinion. > > This seems to trigger https://lintian.debian.org/tags/bad-jar-name Exactly. Thus lintian seems to follow the current Java policy and correctly emit warnings. I am trying to understand if this is a bug in maven-*-helper, or a result of overly strict policy. One of these should be changed. Best, Andrius

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2021-10-18 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > > Not sure though what is the impact of this policy inversion. Most of > > Java-related software seems to read both regular files and symbolic > > links transparently. > > There isn't much impact, both styles are fine in my opinion. This seems to trigger https://lintian.debian.org/tags/bad

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2021-10-17 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 15/10/2021 à 15:17, Andrius Merkys a écrit : > Not sure though what is the impact of this policy inversion. Most of > Java-related software seems to read both regular files and symbolic > links transparently. There isn't much impact, both styles are fine in my opinion. Emmanuel Bourg

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2021-10-15 Thread Andrius Merkys
Hi Markus, On 2021-10-15 14:34, Markus Koschany wrote: > Indeed, that looks like a bug in libcommons-lang3-java or rather maven-debian- > helper to me. I have just checked some other Maven packages and there the > policy is implemented correctly. The bug in libcommons-lang3-java could be > related

Re: maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2021-10-15 Thread Markus Koschany
Hello, Am Freitag, dem 15.10.2021 um 12:41 +0300 schrieb Andrius Merkys: > Hello, > > Java policy on Java libraries (Ch. 2.4.) reads [1]: > >     Their classes must be in jar archive(s) in the directory /usr/ >     share/java, with the name packagename[-extraname] >    

maven-*-helper JAR placement seems to contradict Java policy

2021-10-15 Thread Andrius Merkys
Hello, Java policy on Java libraries (Ch. 2.4.) reads [1]: Their classes must be in jar archive(s) in the directory /usr/ share/java, with the name packagename[-extraname] -fullversion.jar. The extraname is optional and used internally within the package to separate the different

Bug#966303: marked as done (java-policy: Please specify the reference more precisely)

2020-07-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:19:37 + with message-id and subject line Bug#966303: fixed in java-policy 0.57 has caused the Debian Bug report #966303, regarding java-policy: Please specify the reference more precisely to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem

Processed: Bug#966303 marked as pending in java-policy

2020-07-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 pending Bug #966303 [java-policy] java-policy: Please specify the reference more precisely Added tag(s) pending. -- 966303: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=966303 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems

Re: Debian java policy and modular jar files

2019-01-22 Thread Bill Zaumen
Hi Emanuel, Thanks for your reply. On Tue, 2019-01-22 at 09:17 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Le 22/01/2019 à 01:09, Bill Zaumen a écrit : > > > the following commands will cause java to crash: > > > > java -p /usr/share/java --list-modules > > java -p /usr/share/java --

Re: Debian java policy and modular jar files

2019-01-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Bill, Le 22/01/2019 à 01:09, Bill Zaumen a écrit : > the following commands will cause java to crash: > > java -p /usr/share/java --list-modules > java -p /usr/share/java --describe-module MODULE I don't think this is a use case we can reasonably support. Even if there were no sy

Debian java policy and modular jar files

2019-01-21 Thread Bill Zaumen
The Debian java policy appears to need some clarification regarding how to handle modular jar files. A few things don't work the way one might expect with Java 11 (the default jdk on my system). 1. If you create a file with a version string such as libfoo-1.1.0.jar and symbolic

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-23 Thread Miguel Landaeta
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, Markus Koschany wrote: > > I think we can drop lynx from Build-Depends since it is commented out > anyway and I would remove Thorsten Werner from Uploaders. I agree, this important package for the team (and the project) should have an up-to-date list of Uploaders. I guess Emm

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-23 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 23.09.2015 um 09:53 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > I pushed the java-policy package on Alioth [1], reviews are welcome. > I'll remove the policy from java-common once the java-policy package is > in unstable. I think we can drop lynx from Build-Depends since it is commented out anyw

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-23 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
I pushed the java-policy package on Alioth [1], reviews are welcome. I'll remove the policy from java-common once the java-policy package is in unstable. Emmanuel Bourg [1] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-java/java-policy.git

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Markus Koschany
h a move. Will the Java Team be able to > easily amend the Java policy if it's tied to the general debian-policy? > Can we still publish updates of the Java policy independently of the > debian-policy? Will we have to debate about changes on the debian-policy > list? I think we shoul

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 22/09/2015 13:49, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > It’s 56K installed, the overhead is probably too big. To be exact, it's 172K with the .ps .txt and .xml versions in /usr/share/doc/java-common, and 260K if you include the FAQ. Emmanuel Bourg

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > Can’t you get it merged into the normal debian-policy package? > > Good question, and that would probably close #395374, but I'm unsure > about the implications of such a move. Will the Java Team be able to > easily amend

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
but I'm unsure about the implications of such a move. Will the Java Team be able to easily amend the Java policy if it's tied to the general debian-policy? Can we still publish updates of the Java policy independently of the debian-policy? Will we have to debate about changes on the debian-policy list? Emmanuel

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, tony wrote: > in the archive. We may want to iterate over policy frequently, and do > so without triggering upgrades for every installed copy of java-common. Hmm. But in that case you also must split the source package. Just saying. Can’t you get it merged into the normal d

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 22/09/2015 17:13, tony a écrit : > It would also be nice if the policy package was named something > obvious, like java-policy. :) Actually I was thinking about something like "somewhat-normative-best-practices-collection-for-java-packages", but your suggestion is shorter :) Emmanuel

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread tony
We may want to iterate over policy frequently, and do so without triggering upgrades for every installed copy of java-common. In that case, a separate package may take a bit more disk on the mirrors, but it could also result in less overall network bandwidth. It would also be nice if the poli

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 22/09/2015 16:44, Markus Koschany a écrit : > I agree with Thorsten that this would imply a packaging overhead for > only a little gain. Although I think that splitting the documentation > would be cleaner, it is probably not worth the effort for a few KB. No > strong preferences from my side t

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 22.09.2015 um 13:02 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: [...] > What do you think? I agree with Thorsten that this would imply a packaging overhead for only a little gain. Although I think that splitting the documentation would be cleaner, it is probably not worth the effort for a few KB. No strong prefere

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Jan Henke
ages > - the Java FAQ > > Including the Java policy in java-common is a bit odd, it means Java > users automatically gets the policy documents on their systems, but this > is only useful to people doing actual packaging work. I suggest moving > it to a separate java-policy package. The

Re: Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > What do you think? It’s 56K installed, the overhead is probably too big. bye, //mirabilos -- tarent solutions GmbH Rochusstraße 2-4, D-53123 Bonn • http://www.tarent.de/ Tel: +49 228 54881-393 • Fax: +49 228 54881-235 HRB 5168 (AG Bonn) • USt-ID (VAT

Splitting the Java policy from java-common

2015-09-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi all, The src:java-common package currently contains: - the default-jre/jdk meta packages defining the default Java per architecture - the update-java-alternatives mechanism - the packaging policy for Java packages - the Java FAQ Including the Java policy in java-common is a bit odd, it means

Re: lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-14 Thread Guillaume Turri
Hi, 2015-07-07 22:41 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Bourg : > Sorry for the lack of reply, I would recommend posting your next RFS on > the debian-java list instead, you'll get more reviews here. I'll get a > look at your package. Thanks again for your first feedback on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrep

Re: lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-09 Thread tony mancill
On 07/07/2015 01:13 PM, Guillaume Turri wrote: > 2015-07-07 15:26 GMT+02:00 tony mancill : >> On 07/07/2015 04:15 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >>> Le 06/07/2015 06:36, tony mancill a écrit : >>> This warning is useful because some components of the Debian Java toolchain fail when JAR files d

Re: lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-07 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 07/07/2015 22:13, Guillaume Turri a écrit : > By the way, quick question -since I submitted a RFS [2] for axmlrpc, > and got not reply yet-: Hi Guillaume, Sorry for the lack of reply, I would recommend posting your next RFS on the debian-java list instead, you'll get more reviews here. I'll g

Re: lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-07 Thread Guillaume Turri
2015-07-07 15:26 GMT+02:00 tony mancill : > On 07/07/2015 04:15 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> Le 06/07/2015 06:36, tony mancill a écrit : >> >>> This warning is useful because >>> some components of the Debian Java toolchain fail when JAR files don't >>> comply with the naming policy. >>> [...] > >

Re: lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-07 Thread tony mancill
For my understanding, what are the tools relying on this naming policy? > I'm asking because I'm pretty sure many packages don't strictly adhere > to the Java policy on this point (for example liblog4j1.2-java vs > /usr/share/java/log4j-1.2.jar) and I'm not under

Re: lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-07 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
because I'm pretty sure many packages don't strictly adhere to the Java policy on this point (for example liblog4j1.2-java vs /usr/share/java/log4j-1.2.jar) and I'm not under the impression it's causing such a havoc. Emmanuel Bourg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-java-req

lintian: [new check] verify that JAR filename complies with Debian Java Policy

2015-07-05 Thread tony mancill
Package: lintian Version: 2.5.31 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, Please consider adding the attached check for JAR names that are compliant with the Debian Java Policy. This warning is useful because some components of the Debian Java toolchain fail when JAR files don't comply wit

Bug#687841: marked as done (java-common: [Policy] please explicitly state copyright and license in Java Policy)

2013-08-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 05 Aug 2013 16:33:25 + with message-id and subject line Bug#687841: fixed in java-common 0.49 has caused the Debian Bug report #687841, regarding java-common: [Policy] please explicitly state copyright and license in Java Policy to be marked as done. This means that

Bug#698164: marked as done (mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy)

2013-02-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:18:14 +0100 with message-id <51162266.1030...@zorglub.s.bawue.de> and subject line Re: Bug#698164: Info received (Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy) has caused the Debian Bug report #698164, regarding mandate unique package

Re: Debian Java Policy and JVM languages family package names

2013-01-28 Thread Miguel Landaeta
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:56 -0300, Miguel Landaeta wrote: > > There are not many Clojure libraries and I still prefer a $LANG-$LIBRARY > naming > scheme as is used by, for example the Python team. But then there are > numerous examples

Re: Debian Java Policy and JVM languages family package names

2013-01-26 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:56 -0300, Miguel Landaeta wrote: > Some days ago I noticed a new package queued at NEW named > libtools-macro-clojure[1] and that reminded me about how I don't > remember about any discussion or some formal document with a > description about how library packages of JVM l

Debian Java Policy and JVM languages family package names

2013-01-25 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Hi folks, Some days ago I noticed a new package queued at NEW named libtools-macro-clojure[1] and that reminded me about how I don't remember about any discussion or some formal document with a description about how library packages of JVM languages like Scala, Clojure, Groovy and others should be

Re: Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 16/01/13 09:05, Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > Hi, > > Daniel Pocock said: >>> B. I doubt that such a badly named package would be of enough interest / >>> quality for Debian packaging (but I might be wrong, I don't know any >>> example) >> >> There are examples like this. It has been argued

Re: Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-16 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi, Daniel Pocock said: >> B. I doubt that such a badly named package would be of enough interest / >> quality for Debian packaging (but I might be wrong, I don't know any >> example) > > There are examples like this. It has been argued by some developers > that to compile using some toolchains (

Re: Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-15 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
es concurrently on a single system, I would contend that we should >>> mandate the use of this "suggestion" >>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-6.html#d5e6504 >> >> The package domain is a decision of upstream, not of the packager, hence &

Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
use of this "suggestion" >> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-6.html#d5e6504 > > The package domain is a decision of upstream, not of the packager, hence > I don't think that such recommendation has its place in the Java policy: > 1. it doesn&#x

Re: Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-14 Thread Tomasz Muras
/se7/html/jls-6.html#d5e6504 The package domain is a decision of upstream, not of the packager, hence I don't think that such recommendation has its place in the Java policy: 1. it doesn't create any collision in terms of packaging 2. it might create collision in terms of using two such li

Re: Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-14 Thread Eric Lavarde
ain is a decision of upstream, not of the packager, hence I don't think that such recommendation has its place in the Java policy: 1. it doesn't create any collision in terms of packaging 2. it might create collision in terms of using two such libraries BUT a. developers using two such li

Bug#698164: mandate unique package names in Debian Java policy

2013-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
Package: java-common Severity: important Version: 0.47 I just had a read over the policy http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/ One thing not mentioned is the use of namespaces/package names in Java The vast majority of projects use unique namespaces, specifically, using a

Bug#687841: java-common: [Policy] please explicitly state copyright and license in Java Policy

2012-09-16 Thread Francesco Poli (wintermute)
//www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/index.html [2] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/j/java-common/current/copyright [3] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ [4] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Java Policy: /usr/share/java vs. /u/s/maven-repo

2012-08-04 Thread tony mancill
On 08/04/2012 01:48 PM, Vincent Fourmond wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Damien Raude-Morvan > wrote: >>> Le 04/08/2012 09:59, Thomas Koch a écrit : >>>> do you think we should change the java policy and relax the requirement >>>>

Re: Java Policy: /usr/share/java vs. /u/s/maven-repo

2012-08-04 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Hi, On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: >> Le 04/08/2012 09:59, Thomas Koch a écrit : >>> do you think we should change the java policy and relax the requirement >>> to >>> install java libraries to /usr/share/java in favour of >>&g

Re: Java Policy: /usr/share/java vs. /u/s/maven-repo

2012-08-04 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Le 04/08/2012 10:10, Sylvestre Ledru a écrit : Le 04/08/2012 09:59, Thomas Koch a écrit : Hi, do you think we should change the java policy and relax the requirement to install java libraries to /usr/share/java in favour of /usr/share/maven-repo? At least I'd like to see a very s

Re: Java Policy: /usr/share/java vs. /u/s/maven-repo

2012-08-04 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Le 04/08/2012 09:59, Thomas Koch a écrit : > Hi, > > do you think we should change the java policy and relax the requirement to > install java libraries to /usr/share/java in favour of /usr/share/maven-repo? > > At least I'd like to see a very strong recommends to install

Java Policy: /usr/share/java vs. /u/s/maven-repo

2012-08-04 Thread Thomas Koch
Hi, do you think we should change the java policy and relax the requirement to install java libraries to /usr/share/java in favour of /usr/share/maven-repo? At least I'd like to see a very strong recommends to install to /u/s/m-r. I feel like having filled a dozen bugs against java libr

Bug#553619: debian-policy: include java policy

2012-08-03 Thread Charles Plessy
reassign 553619 java-common thanks Le Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 04:46:56PM +0200, Tom Feiner a écrit : > Subject: debian-policy: include java policy > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.3.0 > Severity: wishlist > > Currently, the java policy is provided as part of the jav

Processed: Re: Bug#553619: debian-policy: include java policy

2012-08-03 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 553619 java-common Bug #553619 [debian-policy] debian-policy: include java policy Bug reassigned from package 'debian-policy' to 'java-common'. No longer marked as found in versions debian-policy/3.8.3.0. Ignoring

Processed: Re: Bug#676618: java-common: Update java policy for multiarch glue lib (-jni package)

2012-06-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 676618 patch Bug #676618 [java-common] java-common: Update java policy for multiarch glue lib (-jni package) Added tag(s) patch. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 676618

Bug#676618: java-common: Update java policy for multiarch glue lib (-jni package)

2012-06-08 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
tags 676618 patch thanks Here is an updated version of the patch Thanks multiarch-java2.patch Description: Binary data

Bug#676618: java-common: Update java policy for multiarch glue lib (-jni package)

2012-06-08 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Package: java-common Version: 0.40 Severity: normal Please consider applying the attached patch for the debian java policy -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.5 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable'), (200, 'te

Bug#354026: marked as done (Debian Java Policy needs to be updated regarding java*-runtime usage)

2010-08-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#283557: marked as done (java-common: JAVA POLICY: define default JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java as alternative.)

2010-04-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:21:15 +0200 with message-id <4bc1dadb.2090...@thykier.net> and subject line java-common: JAVA POLICY: define default JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/java as alternative. has caused the Debian Bug report #283557, regarding java-common: JAVA POLICY: define d

Bug#228532: marked as done ([JAVA POLICY] No upgrade when sablevm is alternatvie for /usr/bin/java)

2010-04-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#239309: marked as done ([JAVA POLICY] can't find working java on install when JAVA_HOME not set)

2010-04-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: [Finalizing] Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-30 Thread Niels Thykier
tony mancill wrote: > Niels Thykier wrote: > >> Change 3: >> - >> Finally doc packages were set to a Recommends rather than a Depends. The >> exact wording was changed to: > >> The API &must; be place in a separate doc package. This package >> &must; recommend the doc packages i

Re: [Finalizing] Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-30 Thread tony mancill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Niels Thykier wrote: > Change 3: > - > Finally doc packages were set to a Recommends rather than a Depends. The > exact wording was changed to: > > The API &must; be place in a separate doc package. This package > &must; recommend

[Finalizing] Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-30 Thread Niels Thykier
Hi I have just applied and committed the patches to the SVN with the following changes. Change 1: - Corrected typo reported by Pablo Duboue in the gcj patch (Message ID <201003300143.06669.pablo.dub...@gmail.com>). Change 2: - The parts about tests were rephrased to: Programs

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-29 Thread Pablo Duboue
On Sunday 28 March 2010, Niels Thykier wrote: > Hi > > I just had a conversation with Damien Raude-Morvan and Matthew Johnson > about the strict dependencies between javadoc packages. We considered > lowering the requirement from a Depends to a Recommends. > > The rationale is that the javadoc is

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-28 Thread Niels Thykier
Hi I just had a conversation with Damien Raude-Morvan and Matthew Johnson about the strict dependencies between javadoc packages. We considered lowering the requirement from a Depends to a Recommends. The rationale is that the javadoc is functional even without the docs it links too and it allows

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-28 Thread Niels Thykier
Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: > Hi Niels, > > Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 22:15:18, Niels Thykier a écrit : >> How do these suggestions sound? > [...] >> Programs and libraries &should; enable JUnit tests, >> if these are present. The build &may; ignore test >> failures. > > This one is fine for

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Eric Lavarde
Hi, Niels Thykier wrote: Eric Lavarde wrote: Vincent Fourmond wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Eric Lavarde wrote: one more thing: we could actually also get rid of all javaX-runtime where X < 6, or is there any package left in Debian that provides only less than java6? Package: gcj-

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Niels Thykier
Niels Thykier wrote: > I will just give a quick summery, in case you lost the overview of this > debate. > > Currently there are three patches active: > * p1_trival_changes.patch Applied and committed to the SVN. > * p2_fosdem06_r3.patch No change here (yet). The JUnit phrase needs to be modi

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Hi Niels, Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 22:15:18, Niels Thykier a écrit : > How do these suggestions sound? [...] > Programs and libraries &should; enable JUnit tests, > if these are present. The build &may; ignore test > failures. This one is fine for me. -- Damien Raude-Morvan - http://www.d

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Niels Thykier
Vincent Fourmond wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Matthew Johnson wrote: >>> I think we are missing the point here; for instance, I've mostly >>> disabled junit tests because they depend on not-yet-packaged or even >>> non-DFSG-free libraries. I think both formulations are too oriented

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Niels Thykier
Eric Lavarde wrote: > Vincent Fourmond wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Eric Lavarde wrote: >>> one more thing: we could actually also get rid of all javaX-runtime >>> where X >>> < 6, or is there any package left in Debian that provides only less than >>> java6? >> >> Package: gcj-4.4-j

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Eric Lavarde
Vincent Fourmond wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Eric Lavarde wrote: one more thing: we could actually also get rid of all javaX-runtime where X < 6, or is there any package left in Debian that provides only less than java6? Package: gcj-4.4-jre Provides: java-runtime, java1-runtime,

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Le vendredi 26 mars 2010 21:21:05, Vincent Fourmond a écrit : > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Eric Lavarde wrote: > > one more thing: we could actually also get rid of all javaX-runtime where > > X < 6, or is there any package left in Debian that provides only less > > than java6? > > Package:

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Vincent Fourmond
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Eric Lavarde wrote: > one more thing: we could actually also get rid of all javaX-runtime where X > < 6, or is there any package left in Debian that provides only less than > java6? Package: gcj-4.4-jre Provides: java-runtime, java1-runtime, java2-runtime, java5-r

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Eric Lavarde
Hi, one more thing: we could actually also get rid of all javaX-runtime where X < 6, or is there any package left in Debian that provides only less than java6? Backport might be a concern, but then sun-java5 is not present in older versions than sun-java6, so... Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Eric Lavarde
Hello, Matthew Johnson wrote: But, from your patches, I understand that javaX-runtime survives and that we add default-jre/jdk (default-j) into the picture, which, depending on the platform, provides either cp-j or java-j, because they pull gcj-j or openjdk-j. IMO javaX-runtime should be

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Matthew Johnson
hing I've to take care of, what a unit test may not do on a > build server? Like accessing the internet, connecting to localhost? You certainly can't rely on internet access and starting any kind of local server is a little dodgy, particularly if it doesn't do random port selecti

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Thomas Koch
There are two questions I had about Debian-Java unit tests and which I propose to answer in the policy: - Is there any time limit, how long unit test suites may take? - Is there anything I've to take care of, what a unit test may not do on a build server? Like accessing the internet, connectin

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Vincent Fourmond
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Matthew Johnson wrote: >>   I think we are missing the point here; for instance, I've mostly >> disabled junit tests because they depend on not-yet-packaged or even >> non-DFSG-free libraries. I think both formulations are too oriented >> towards: "junit tests sho

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Fri Mar 26 11:24, Vincent Fourmond wrote: > >  Programs and libraries &should; enable JUnit tests, if these are present. > >  *However, these tests &should; not lead to build failures unless > > Maintainer is confident enough that tests are stable between builds* > > I think we are missing th

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Hello, On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: >  Programs and libraries &should; enable JUnit tests, if these are present. >  *However, these tests &mustnot; lead to build failures.* > > For some library packages (ie. commons-maths), I'm confidence enough to > enable unit

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Hi, On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:32:50 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: > Currently there are three patches active: > * p1_trival_changes.patch > * p2_fosdem06_r3.patch > * p3_fosdem06-gcj.patch I'm OK with all three patches, except one small addition from "p2_fosdem06_r3.patch" : Programs and librari

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Fri Mar 26 09:42, Eric Lavarde wrote: > Hi Niels, > > I have some problems to understand the resulting document, not knowing > what the baseline is, but after reading through the patches, I think > that the new policy doesn't address the main problem which is the fact > that we have 2 inco

Re: [Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-26 Thread Eric Lavarde
et values corresponding to this X. Even less important, a typo in the GCJ patch: A request for permission to add gcj should packages should convince the Java Team that [...] (the "should packages" is probably too much) Participating to my confusion: I'm not sure where in the

[Summery] Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-25 Thread Niels Thykier
I will just give a quick summery, in case you lost the overview of this debate. Currently there are three patches active: * p1_trival_changes.patch * p2_fosdem06_r3.patch * p3_fosdem06-gcj.patch I just noticed that my email client have behaved weirdly when I sent the last two and have made all

Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-24 Thread Niels Thykier
Matthias Klose wrote: > On 23.03.2010 10:26, Niels Thykier wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have compiled two patches against the current policy that I intend to >> apply Friday assuming there are no objections. > > mentioning default-jdk-doc would be useful. > > It is mentioned once: Java library packa

Re: Integrating the FOSDEM 06 Draft into the Java Policy

2010-03-24 Thread Niels Thykier
I have decided to extract the GCJ part into its own patch. I have created an interdiff between the last and the current version of the fosdem06 patch. I would have made an interdiff for the GCJ part as well, but it failed. Matthias Klose wrote: > On 23.03.2010 11:54, Niels Thykier wrote: >> Sylves

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