Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-11 Thread Dalibor Topic
Konichiwa Takashi, --- Takashi Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: JAVA_HOME and ant > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) > > I think the code in question (javadoc task) is going to be rewritten to use &g

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-11 Thread Dalibor Topic
Konichiwa Takashi, --- Takashi Okamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: JAVA_HOME and ant > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) > > I think the code in question (javadoc task) is going to be rewritten to use &g

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-10 Thread Takashi Okamoto
From: Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: JAVA_HOME and ant Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) > I think the code in question (javadoc task) is going to be rewritten to use a > delegation model soon anyway, as there is some demand to be able to run > different j

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-10 Thread Takashi Okamoto
From: Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: JAVA_HOME and ant Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) > I think the code in question (javadoc task) is going to be rewritten to use a > delegation model soon anyway, as there is some demand to be able to run > different j

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-09 Thread Dalibor Topic
--- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo Dalibor, > > Ok, I'm also good at philosophical nitpicking :) Great! :) > * Dalibor Topic wrote: > >--- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > [...working ant...]How do you define normally? > >> Just as it is now. > >so the status quo, wit

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-09 Thread Dalibor Topic
--- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo Dalibor, > > Ok, I'm also good at philosophical nitpicking :) Great! :) > * Dalibor Topic wrote: > >--- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > [...working ant...]How do you define normally? > >> Just as it is now. > >so the status quo, wit

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-08 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, Ok, I'm also good at philosophical nitpicking :) * Dalibor Topic wrote: >--- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [...working ant...]How do you define normally? >> Just as it is now. >so the status quo, with ant having what we agreed upon to be some very badly >designed code,

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-08 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, Ok, I'm also good at philosophical nitpicking :) * Dalibor Topic wrote: >--- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [...working ant...]How do you define normally? >> Just as it is now. >so the status quo, with ant having what we agreed upon to be some very badly >designed code,

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-07 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Mark, --- Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> * Javah relies on a special sun.com...javah.Main class. Doesn't matter.. > > >gcj comes with gcjh which should be able to do everything javah does > > >(given the -jni flag). > > > > But as it is now, it won't be useable form ant. O

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-07 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, but to make this policy os do something else is IMO not possible. > >> Especially, if we have to consider, that ant should behave 'normaly', > >> when used to develop java apps in, for example, eclipse. > >How do you define normally?

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-07 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Mark, --- Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> * Javah relies on a special sun.com...javah.Main class. Doesn't matter.. > > >gcj comes with gcjh which should be able to do everything javah does > > >(given the -jni flag). > > > > But as it is now, it won't be useable form ant. O

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-07 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, but to make this policy os do something else is IMO not possible. > >> Especially, if we have to consider, that ant should behave 'normaly', > >> when used to develop java apps in, for example, eclipse. > >How do you define normally?

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-06 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Mark, * Mark Wielaard wrote: >Try gij-3.3: Don't have that just now... Yes, unstable is calling, even starting to scream... >> All compilers I know should be satisfied by that. >OK. I am not a big Ant user. gcj needs a -C option to compile to byte >code though. Or a --main and -o option

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:29, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help > >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'." > > --8<-:- snip -:-8<-:- snip -:-8<-- > [EMAIL PROT

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-06 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Mark, * Mark Wielaard wrote: >Try gij-3.3: Don't have that just now... Yes, unstable is calling, even starting to scream... >> All compilers I know should be satisfied by that. >OK. I am not a big Ant user. gcj needs a -C option to compile to byte >code though. Or a --main and -o option

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-06 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Mark, * Mark Wielaard wrote: >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'." --8<-:- snip -:-8<-:- snip -:-8<-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ gij-3.0 --help Usage: gij [OPTION] ... CL

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:29, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help > >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'." > > --8<-:- snip -:-8<-:- snip -:-8<-- > [EMAIL PROT

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

2003-09-06 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Mark, * Mark Wielaard wrote: >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'." --8<-:- snip -:-8<-:- snip -:-8<-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ gij-3.0 --help Usage: gij [OPTION] ... CL

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 20:21, Jan Schulz wrote: > Ok, I don't actually mind. The only real argument I have is that it > looks better, if you have all requirements defined with comandline > arguments, not environment variables. But ok... neither gij-3.0 nor > gij-wrapper-3.0 have a -classpath op

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-06 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >> >Then why push for $JAVA_HOME, which suffers from the same problem? >> Because I think there are a lot of programs, which rely on the >> 'java.home' property to be set. Here is for example the result on >> going thru the ant tasks. ant is IMO one of the important

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-06 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 20:21, Jan Schulz wrote: > Ok, I don't actually mind. The only real argument I have is that it > looks better, if you have all requirements defined with comandline > arguments, not environment variables. But ok... neither gij-3.0 nor > gij-wrapper-3.0 have a -classpath op

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-06 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >> >Then why push for $JAVA_HOME, which suffers from the same problem? >> Because I think there are a lot of programs, which rely on the >> 'java.home' property to be set. Here is for example the result on >> going thru the ant tasks. ant is IMO one of the important

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-05 Thread Ben Burton
> >Then why push for $JAVA_HOME, which suffers from the same problem? > > Because I think there are a lot of programs, which rely on the > 'java.home' property to be set. Here is for example the result on > going thru the ant tasks. ant is IMO one of the important packages, > which should be made

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-05 Thread Ben Burton
> >Then why push for $JAVA_HOME, which suffers from the same problem? > > Because I think there are a lot of programs, which rely on the > 'java.home' property to be set. Here is for example the result on > going thru the ant tasks. ant is IMO one of the important packages, > which should be made

JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-05 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >I'm really not sure what you mean here. At the moment, using $CLASSPATH >is somewhat *more* portable across different JVMs than using -classpath. >In particular, it doesn't suffer from the ever-changing command-line >syntax, nor does it override the bootstrap class

JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

2003-09-05 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >I'm really not sure what you mean here. At the moment, using $CLASSPATH >is somewhat *more* portable across different JVMs than using -classpath. >In particular, it doesn't suffer from the ever-changing command-line >syntax, nor does it override the bootstrap class