Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-10 Thread Bear Giles
Adam Heath wrote: I suggest having a libhsqldb-java anyways. Other packages make use of hypersonic(in embedded form), and will have various version requirements. The current version has been renamed libhsqldb-java, at //coyotesong.com/java/. Bear -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-10 Thread Bear Giles
Adam Heath wrote: The industry is wrong. It's ultimately irrelevant. Either the packaging helps people get their job done or it gets in the way, and if it gets in the way people will avoid it. Bear -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Bear Giles wrote: > The latter is one reason why I believe that ultimately the > conventional shared library approach is flawed for Java. The > industry, or at least the part I'm involved with, is moving > towards self-contained WAR or EAR files that have their own copies > of

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Bear Giles wrote: > hsqldb: /usr/share/java/hsqldb.jar, documentation, and scripts to > run the database as a service. I haven't rewritten the stock > scripts to follow Debian standards yet -- I'm not even sure it's > practical since the scripts must specify the directory con

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-08 Thread Bear Giles
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:08:07 -0700 Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Second, I really have no interest in getting involved in the Debian project directly. I thought you were. By the way, IMHO these two packages are very interresting and it's a go

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:08:07 -0700 Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > Why not send ITP's to wnpp at the BTS? > > First, I don't know what most of the acronyms are, just ITP. Sorry. ITP=Intent To Package. BTS=Bug Tracking System. WNPP=Work Needed and Prospective P

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-08 Thread Bear Giles
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:18:19 -0700 1000 packages in /java/ ! Over 1000 packages in a modified testing, perhaps 50 java packages built to local conventions in a separate repository. With that many packages you tend to use custom scripts heavily. Why not send ITP's to wnpp a

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:18:19 -0700 Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Two of the packages are up at http://coyotesong.com/java/. It's > not set up to support apt-get yet - ironically I have a local > repository with over 1000 recompiled packages ('testing' > recompiled against the static

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-06 Thread Joe Phillips
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 23:18, Bear Giles wrote: > I've run into some problems recompiling libxdoclet-java, so I > don't have a time frame for it. > > Anyway, since my packages haven't been redistributed I haven't > been worried about using the Sun packages when convenient. These > have been co

Re: ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-06 Thread Bear Giles
Two of the packages are up at http://coyotesong.com/java/. It's not set up to support apt-get yet - ironically I have a local repository with over 1000 recompiled packages ('testing' recompiled against the static libc and perl packages), but the tools to maintain that monster don't port well t

ITP hibernate, hsqldb, xdoclet

2003-11-06 Thread Bear Giles
I thought that Java on Debian was pretty much dead, glad to see I was mistaken. I'm currently Debianizing a number of Java package that I've been using locally. I made them apt-friendly, but they were otherwise entirely independent of the Debian project. The first three packages up are all st