Hi Stephane,
It has been my experience that there are two types of engineers in the
world. The ones who tell you why something can't be done and the ones
who make the concept happen. My letter to you folks was to open up
possibilities. Good luck.
Jim
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>
> On Friday
On Friday 10 September 1999, at 10 h 50, the keyboard of Jim Franklin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps the question of a "Debian Java Policy" might be handled as
> part of the creation of a nonexistent non-profit debian-java
> fellowship/organization/sub-debian_organization.
Well, this is
On Friday 10 September 1999, at 9 h 7, the keyboard of "Cris J. Holdorph"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The debian-java list and Debian's interaction with Java has been
> the only thing that has come close to pushing me away from Debian
> entirely.
I understand. Java on Debian is far from being
Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
> >- defining a Java equivalent to libc
> > (collection of utility classes shared among Java "binaries")
>
> Isn't it java.lang.* ?
Depends on what you are looking for. JTar? Getopt? Maybe
libj is not the right word, but Giant Java Tree is not the
altern
Cris J. Holdorph writes:
> The debian-java list and Debian's interaction with Java has been
> the only thing that has come close to pushing me away from Debian
> entirely. For the last 2 full years, I've been doing Java
> development full time. Excluding a couple months, I've done all
> of t
Hi folks,
I am also a lurker and fairly new to the Java-debian scene(watching
the mailing list for a number of months). I am by profession an
engineer and have worked startups for the last 15 years.
Perhaps the question of a "Debian Java Policy" might be handled as
part of the creation of a no
Yeah, I'd have to admit that "java versions of find/ls/posix.1" don't
interest me at all (or any more than, for example, Ada95 or Forth
versions do. A little less, because Ada95 ports are at least likely
to be more accurate implementations of their specs, a mostly
psychological advantage...)
My "
> Cris J Holdorph writes:
Cris> I mostly lurk on debian-java, because I have an interest in both.
Cris> However, I have no immediate hope of those two ever meeting. If
Cris> they do, great. If not, I'll continue to install the JDK and Jserv
Cris> myself.
At least potato has
Bernd Kreimeier Writes:
> Of course, your goals might differ, and with a different
> roadmap, a different policy makes sense. The question I
> tried to ask when the policy proposal came up originally
> was: what is your vision of "Java in Debian"? Is it just
> a bunch of packages to put somewhere,
Cris J. Holdorph writes:
> Bernd Kreimeier Writes:
> > When we can implement find etc. in pure Java, and create
> > ELF as well as a bytecode from the same Java source using
> > the basis to formulate a policy, or even plot a roadmap on how
> > Java could make binary-all grow and shrink binar
On Thursday 9 September 1999, at 12 h 21, the keyboard of Bernd Kreimeier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>- defining a Java equivalent to libc
> (collection of utility classes shared among Java "binaries")
Isn't it java.lang.* ?
>- a free compiler to convert pure Java source or "bina
Daniel James Patterson Writes:
> I believe that perl has the ability to generate C code from perl scripts,
> which you can then compile yourself. As far as i can remember, it was
> a new feature for perl 5.004 when it arrived. I think it's mentioned
> somewhere in the perl man pages, but I'm not
Bernd Kreimeier Writes:
> When we can implement find etc. in pure Java, and create
> ELF as well as a bytecode from the same Java source using
> free tools, when we can execute nfind and jfind as quickly
> and efficiently as /usr/bin/find, when Find.java uses
> a FindOperator class that can be use
Mark W. Eichin writes:
> [goes back to lurking until free-java is good enough to consider as an
> *only* java environment :-)]
Yeah. It's not only that we'd need an LGPL'ed VM and core
classes, and a GPL'ed compiler. I tried to make this point
last year that we would need some kind of experiment
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