Re: [Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-10 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi, >> If the library builds with a free VM and only runs partially under a >> free >> VM, the question should be "is there a program ready to go to main, >> depending on this library, and running under a free VM with this >> library?"; if the answer would be yes, then the library MUST go to main,

Re: [Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-09 Thread Wolfgang Baer
Hi all, Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > Hi, > > - java libraries can go to main if they can be built with free VM; > If the library builds with a free VM and only runs partially under a free > VM, the question should be "is there a program ready to go to main, > depending on this library, an

Re: Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Florian Weimer] > debian/rules actually compiles the source code, and does not simply > copy JAR files around (or something like that). Right. I read your statement that the code should be compiled with the free java compiler and libraries, and not with SUNs compiler and libraries, and wondered

Re: [Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-09 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi, >> > - java libraries can go to main if they can be built with free VM; > > Does this also mean that it is no longer required that a library be > runnable from a free VM? My libbcprov-java builds just fine, but the > test cases fail under all free VMs. I would also second the fact that, if the

Re: [Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-08 Thread Charles Fry
> >We have some proposals about the Debian-Java policy changes that > > includes: > > > - java libraries can go to main if they can be built with free VM; Does this also mean that it is no longer required that a library be runnable from a free VM? My libbcprov-java builds just fine, but the t

Re: Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Florian Weimer] >> "can be built" or "are built"? AFAICS, only the latter complies >> with the letter of the policy and the spirit of the DFSG. > > How are you to see the difference? debian/rules actually compiles the source code, and does not simply copy JAR files arou

Re: Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Florian Weimer] > "can be built" or "are built"? AFAICS, only the latter complies > with the letter of the policy and the spirit of the DFSG. How are you to see the difference? I assume the build-dependencies will point to the free tools needed to built it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

Re: [Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-08 Thread Wolfgang Baer
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Arnaud Vandyck: > > >> We have some proposals about the Debian-Java policy changes that >>includes: > > >>- java libraries can go to main if they can be built with free VM; > > > "can be built" or "are built"? AFAICS, only the latter complies with > the letter of

Re: [Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Arnaud Vandyck: >We have some proposals about the Debian-Java policy changes that > includes: > - java libraries can go to main if they can be built with free VM; "can be built" or "are built"? AFAICS, only the latter complies with the letter of the policy and the spirit of the DFSG. --

[Debian-Java] Bits from the FOSDEM

2006-03-07 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [reply only on debian-java, thanks] Hi all, This is a report from the debian-java meeting we (Michael Koch, Wolfgang Baer and I) had at the FOSDEM[2], Bruxelles, Belgium. The discussion is the continuation of the meeting we had at Oldenburg in septemb