Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-29 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi all, Since there is no consensus to maintain a subset of Jenkins I'll proceed with its removal (#811522). I'll also request the removal of the Jenkins specific libraries. Here is the list of packages I've identified, let me know if there are others: access-modifier-checker bytecode-compati

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-24 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 24/01/2016 16:54, 殷啟聰 a écrit : > So if my understanding is right, Jenkins is highly likely to be > removed from Debian. And the reason behind this is because the release > cycle of Jenkins is way too short and upstream already provides .deb? Yes that's correct. The security fixes for Jenkins

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-24 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi, Am 24.01.2016 um 16:54 schrieb 殷啟聰: > Hi, > > So if my understanding is right, Jenkins is highly likely to be > removed from Debian. And the reason behind this is because the release > cycle of Jenkins is way too short and upstream already provides .deb? Upstream has a so called LTS Release

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-24 Thread Ioan Eugen Stan
Hi Kai-Chung Yan, I don't have an answer to your question but I would like to point out that gradle [1] does not depend on SBT [2]. They do similar things but SBT is Scala oriented while Gradle aims to be a more generic build tool. Regarding your question, from my experience during Debconf Heidle

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-24 Thread 殷啟聰
Hi, So if my understanding is right, Jenkins is highly likely to be removed from Debian. And the reason behind this is because the release cycle of Jenkins is way too short and upstream already provides .deb? So this makes me think about what exactly should be packaged into Debian. There are not

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-20 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/01/2016 10:15, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > Hrm, so is upstream’s packaging any good then? I have seen > so many attempts of upstream to package “for” Debian that > I don’t believe them unseen any more… Reproducibility put aside the upstream package is quite good. The dependencies and the pa

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-15 Thread Guido Günther
Hi, On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:15:36AM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > > Thank you for the feedback, I'm glad to hear that at least one person > > found our work useful. > > I indeed do, yes. > > > Technically you could achieve the same stability by

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Thank you for the feedback, I'm glad to hear that at least one person > found our work useful. I indeed do, yes. > Technically you could achieve the same stability by installing the > upstream package once and disabling the jenkins-ci entry in > /etc/

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 13/01/2016 19:10, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > I’m running a Debian system with the packaged version of Jenkins, > and I’d be most annoyed if you did… > > … because what’s there may be old, but at least it doesn’t break > every day, and it works just fine. Hi Thorsten, Thank you for the feedb

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: I’m running a Debian system with the packaged version of Jenkins, and I’d be most annoyed if you did… > 3. Remove Jenkins completely. … because what’s there may be old, but at least it doesn’t break every day, and it works just fine. Thanks, //mirabilo

Re: About Jenkins in Debian is not black OR white

2016-01-12 Thread Geert Stappers
On 2016-01-11 > I believe we should either answer their expectations or do nothing at all. It is not about either black or white. So allow grey. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Mon, 2016-01-11 at 21:37 +0100, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: [...] > I'm not a user of these packages, so I won't push to keep them if > nobody supports the idea. But I can see their technical merits over > the upstream package (better system integration with manpages, bash > completion, proper daemon

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-11 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 11.01.2016 um 21:37 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Le 11/01/2016 16:52, Markus Koschany a écrit : > >> I presume >> jenkins-cli and jenkins-slave would be affected by the same short three >> month support release cycle. > > jenkins-cli consists in only 9 classes and requires 4 dependencies > (commo

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 11/01/2016 16:52, Markus Koschany a écrit : > I presume > jenkins-cli and jenkins-slave would be affected by the same short three > month support release cycle. jenkins-cli consists in only 9 classes and requires 4 dependencies (commons-codec, jenkins-remoting, localizer and trilead-ssh2. It d

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-11 Thread Steffen Möller
ted might > create a bit of confusion. > > Regards, > > On 11.01.2016 17:52, Markus Koschany wrote: >> Am 11.01.2016 um 16:04 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm pondering what we should do about Jenkins in Debian. >> [...] &g

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-11 Thread Ioan Eugen Stan
d some not supported might create a bit of confusion. Regards, On 11.01.2016 17:52, Markus Koschany wrote: > Am 11.01.2016 um 16:04 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm pondering what we should do about Jenkins in Debian. > > [...] > >> 2. Packag

Re: About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-11 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 11.01.2016 um 16:04 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Hi all, > > I'm pondering what we should do about Jenkins in Debian. [...] > 2. Package a subset of Jenkins. >We could keep only the jenkins-cli and jenkins-slave package as they >provide a real added value over th

About Jenkins in Debian

2016-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi all, I'm pondering what we should do about Jenkins in Debian. For the reminder Jenkins development moves too fast and LTS releases are not supported long enough to make it suitable for Debian stable. Security fixes end up being almost impossible to backport properly. Moreover upstream al