Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-10-01 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 10:14:00AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > This is exactly analogous to, say, the selection of thread implementations > > for glibc 2.0. You are still free to use some other thread model if you care > > to, but the default one that most people write to is the one in gl

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-10-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 30 September 1999, at 10 h 30, the keyboard of "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is exactly analogous to, say, the selection of thread implementations > for glibc 2.0. You are still free to use some other thread model if you care > to, but the default one that mos

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-30 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:51:55AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > The main strength of the current approach is that it allows two different > implementations of SAX to live together, letting the user chose. Doing > otherwise would mean having a form of arbitration, to decide which one will

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-30 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 29 September 1999, at 12 h 0, the keyboard of "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a common library by organization. Let's say that you are writing an XML > program and are using classes from several different organizations. Having > to deal with classes coming out of: c

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-30 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .. > The thing is, even Sun doesn't follow their > own policy when it comes to most of the libraries. There is almost nothing > that is packaged under com.sun.* and the things that are you are advised > not to use. > .. > Again, Sun created a sen

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:28:01PM -0400, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > Yes and no. Sun has defined the API, which goes under java.* and > the extended api, which goes under javax.*. However, they do define > com.sun classes and net.jini classes, which do follow their definition. > I've f

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Seth M. Landsman
Okay, having said this won't be a debian requirement, I'm much more comfortable discussing this at its merits, instead of arguing against unnecessary incompatibility. On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:00:13PM -0500, Ean R . Schuessler wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:08:22PM -0400, Seth M. Lan

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 01:08:22PM -0400, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > However, are programmers who write this software going to be > willing to do this? I can't see gnu going with gpl.gnu and lgpl.gnu as > their top level, nor can I see mozilla willing change to mpl.mozilla with > all of their

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Seth M. Landsman
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 11:39:51AM -0500, Ean R . Schuessler wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:58:53AM -0400, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > > Umm, please don't. This would be wonderful if all systems were > > debian and hetrogenius. However, what happens when I try to use my > > software on a m

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:58:53AM -0400, Seth M. Landsman wrote: > Umm, please don't. This would be wonderful if all systems were > debian and hetrogenius. However, what happens when I try to use my > software on a machine that isn't debian, like I do on a daily basis. This > would make j

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Seth M. Landsman
> Instead of org.gnu.regex.Regex you might have lgpl.regex.Regex. The > nice thing being that you wouldn't see anything in lgpl.* linking in > something from gpl.*, because that would break the license. There are > some disadvantages, obviously, but the process of linking is tightly > coupled with

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tuesday 28 September 1999, at 12 h 12, the keyboard of "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the irritating things about the Java packaging scheme is that you > get this functional disassociation because of the organizational boundries. > > In other words, you have: > > ne

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread James LewisMoss
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:27:51 -0500, "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: Ean> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:37:12PM -0400, James LewisMoss wrote: >> What if I want to release a regex package under the lgpl. Should >> I have to rename mine so that it doesn't conflict with gn

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-29 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:37:12PM -0400, James LewisMoss wrote: > What if I want to release a regex package under the lgpl. Should I > have to rename mine so that it doesn't conflict with gnu's? This > seems like it would place a large burden on different organizations > not to step on each othe

Re: A packaging scheme...

1999-09-28 Thread James LewisMoss
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:12:44 -0500, "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: Ean> Instead of org.gnu.regex.Regex you might have Ean> lgpl.regex.Regex. The nice thing being that you wouldn't see Ean> anything in lgpl.* linking in something from gpl.*, because that Ean> would

A packaging scheme...

1999-09-28 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
Here is an idea that I just wanted to kick around... Perhaps it could be part of a java policy. One of the irritating things about the Java packaging scheme is that you get this functional disassociation because of the organizational boundries. In other words, you have: net.novare.ExpiringHashta