Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Etienne, * Etienne Gagnon wrote: > eclipse -consolelog -vm /usr/bin/sablevm -vmargs >/usr/bin/sablevm *IS* *NOT* argument compatible with Sun's Java. If >you want to run SableVM using a Sun compatible argument/environment >(e.g. $CLASSPATH), you should use /usr/bin/java-sablevm. Just done

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-18 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Etienne, * Etienne Gagnon wrote: > eclipse -consolelog -vm /usr/bin/sablevm -vmargs >/usr/bin/sablevm *IS* *NOT* argument compatible with Sun's Java. If >you want to run SableVM using a Sun compatible argument/environment >(e.g. $CLASSPATH), you should use /usr/bin/java-sablevm. Just done

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-17 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Hi, You typed the following: eclipse -consolelog -vm /usr/bin/sablevm -vmargs Including user settings ~/.eclipse/eclipserc... Using /home/jan/workspace for workspace Using /usr/bin/sablevm as java virtual machine... /usr/bin/sablevm *IS* *NOT* argument compatible with Sun's Java. If you wa

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-17 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Hi, You typed the following: eclipse -consolelog -vm /usr/bin/sablevm -vmargs Including user settings ~/.eclipse/eclipserc... Using /home/jan/workspace for workspace Using /usr/bin/sablevm as java virtual machine... /usr/bin/sablevm *IS* *NOT* argument compatible with Sun's Java. If you

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-17 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >> >> and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, >> >> when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. >Not necessarily, just an understanding of what you mean. I'm still >uncomfortable with using a hand-rolled system here where we have

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-17 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >> >> and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, >> >> when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. >Not necessarily, just an understanding of what you mean. I'm still >uncomfortable with using a hand-rolled system here where we have

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-16 Thread Ben Burton
> >> and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, > >> when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. > >Rightio. > > I take that as an agreement? Not necessarily, just an understanding of what you mean. I'm still uncomfortable with using a hand-rolled system here w

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-16 Thread Ben Burton
> >> and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, > >> when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. > >Rightio. > > I take that as an agreement? Not necessarily, just an understanding of what you mean. I'm still uncomfortable with using a hand-rolled system here w

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-16 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >> and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, >> when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. >Rightio. I take that as an agreement? Another point is, that this is common code and so it should be factored into some common place. I h

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-16 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben, * Ben Burton wrote: >> and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, >> when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. >Rightio. I take that as an agreement? Another point is, that this is common code and so it should be factored into some common place. I h

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Burton
> Yes: The findjava script will let you *overwrite* your 'known working > VMs' Well, so did that tiny 'for' loop (by allowing the user to set $JAVA). > and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, > when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. Rightio. > 'need to

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-15 Thread Ben Burton
> Yes: The findjava script will let you *overwrite* your 'known working > VMs' Well, so did that tiny 'for' loop (by allowing the user to set $JAVA). > and will let the user choose one default VM, which will be used, > when it is include in your list of 'known working VMs'. Rightio. > 'need to

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben * Ben Burton wrote: >Since the proposed policy mandates that programs use both these scripts >(section 2.6), I would really like to see working implementations of >each of these *before* we look at making this proposal into policy. A first java-config script is already online: http://ww

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-15 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Ben * Ben Burton wrote: >Since the proposed policy mandates that programs use both these scripts >(section 2.6), I would really like to see working implementations of >each of these *before* we look at making this proposal into policy. A first java-config script is already online: http://ww

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-14 Thread Ben Burton
Hi. Just a couple of notes re the findjava and java-config scripts. Since the proposed policy mandates that programs use both these scripts (section 2.6), I would really like to see working implementations of each of these *before* we look at making this proposal into policy. >Packages, whi

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-14 Thread Ben Burton
Hi. Just a couple of notes re the findjava and java-config scripts. Since the proposed policy mandates that programs use both these scripts (section 2.6), I would really like to see working implementations of each of these *before* we look at making this proposal into policy. >Packages, whi

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-14 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, * Dalibor Topic wrote: [mention how the unfree VMs should be used] >I do not quite understand: do you simply want to list the VMs available in >debian at the time of writing, and include references to non-free VMs not in >debian? I want something so that users take one way to incl

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-14 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to include somewhere teh naming and way to include > 'unfree' JVM, but I haven't found a proper place. I would like to make > that a little more specific, so that we only use one way to access > them (otehrwise there will be some

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-14 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, * Dalibor Topic wrote: [mention how the unfree VMs should be used] >I do not quite understand: do you simply want to list the VMs available in >debian at the time of writing, and include references to non-free VMs not in >debian? I want something so that users take one way to incl

Re: [PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-14 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to include somewhere teh naming and way to include > 'unfree' JVM, but I haven't found a proper place. I would like to make > that a little more specific, so that we only use one way to access > them (otehrwise there will be some

[PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-13 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo, This is the forth attempt of a rewrite of the current debian java policy. The chanegs to the third version are: * droped the 'unfree' interfaces * dropped all the virtual package names (apart from browser plugin) * a 'java virtual machine' is no handled by a 'findjava' script, which wil

[PROPOSAL] 4. RfD for a new debian java policy

2003-09-13 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo, This is the forth attempt of a rewrite of the current debian java policy. The chanegs to the third version are: * droped the 'unfree' interfaces * dropped all the virtual package names (apart from browser plugin) * a 'java virtual machine' is no handled by a 'findjava' script, which wil