Hi,
As we are now in the heart of the wishlist season, I would like to
proceed with a little experiment and collect your wishes for the Java
and JVM ecosystems in Debian next year.
Just post what you can think about as a reply to this message,
regardless of other proposals (don't worry about
Hi,
For information:
Yesterday I tried to rebuild (on trixie) the 110 identified source
packages that depend on Gradle. That kept my low-end, second-hand laptop
busy for about 5 hours. Most packages (102, ~93%) were rebuilt without
issues. The 8 packages that failed to build OOTB were:
1. a
Le 2024-12-14 10:48, Matthias Klose a écrit :
what about having two sets of packages? one set encapsulating the
bootstrap, which always stays in unstable, and one "production" set,
which then migrates to testing? Would that be better to keep the
bootstrap knowledge up to date?
That's a poss
Good evening,
Here is a quick report about the (little) progress made this week.
Le 2024-12-09 12:08, sre4e...@free.fr a écrit :
Now the build fails on Kotlin issues.
And now I'm stuck on the (re)build of Kotlin 1.3.31 that currently FTBFS
[1].
I will see this week how far I can go with t
Le 2024-12-09 19:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
I think it would be fine to keep in place, as long as the workflow is
documented, e.g. the bootstrapping is not required to be maintained,
but it would be nice to have.
It's probably not as complicated to maintain as it may look right now,
Le 2024-12-09 14:32, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit :
I don't think we should try too hard to keep the bootstrapping logic in
the package, that'll most certainly be tedious to maintain over time.
Well that's indeed something to think about, and I am a bit worried
about that as well. With Gradle, the
Good day,
Some news about the ongoing work on Gradle packaging:
Le 2024-12-02 19:43, sre4e...@free.fr a écrit :
The build progressed a bit and now fails on the outdated Groovy
Last week the build progressed some more and now (using --continue)
generates 78 of the 83 (86 minus 3 dropped) jars
Good evening,
Le 2024-11-22 18:25, sre4e...@free.fr a écrit :
Next week I will start working on a detailed action plan and PoC for
the rebootstrap, in between build runs and fixups.
Updating and then fixing the builds of various packages (not all of them
direct dependencies of Gradle) kept me
Hi,
Le 2024-11-30 09:40, Markus Koschany a écrit :
I remember that upstream confirmed they only use nightly builds to
build gradle
Actually it's a bit more subtle than that: out of curiosity I extracted
the last 200 versions used to build Gradle [1], and it appears to be a
combination of r
Le 2024-11-29 12:49, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit :
I'm not a big fan of potentially long lived experimental packages as it
makes updates in sid more complicated. For example let's say the
package foo has the version 1.0 in sid/testing and the version 3.0 in
experimental, the upstream and pristine-
Le 2024-11-29 11:58, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit :
Maybe jumping to recent and stable Gradle/Kotlin releases would be
easier, but does that even exist? Is there a couple a Gradle and Kotlin
releases that can be used to build each other (and themself).
I haven't checked Kotlin yet, but recent relea
Hi Emmanuel,
Le 2024-11-29 11:42, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit :
Markus raises a good point, I would add that if there is a risk at some
point of breaking the existing packages after upgrading a dependency,
then introducing a new package for the updated dependency is the way to
go. We can deduplic
Hi Hans-Cristoph,
Le 2024-11-26 13:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
Another thing I can offer is help with funding for doing this work, if
that is interesting to you. Specifically, NLnet's Mobifree fund
(https://nlnet.nl/mobifree/) is likely to fund this kind of work
because Gradle is so
Hi Markus,
Thanks for the link to your repo, I will take a look.
Le 2024-11-26 14:09, Markus Koschany a écrit :
I discarded the idea to upgrade Gradle to 6.x or even newer releases
because
the main problem with Gradle for Debian is the complex interaction
between its
(build)-dependencies. Si
Good evening,
Some news from this adventure:
Le 2024-11-19 11:04, sre4e...@free.fr a écrit :
There is currently a regression compared to two weeks ago as I'm
currently unable to get the build to start compiling the project, it
hangs in a configuration stage. Currently investigating why
I fou
Good morning,
Le 2024-11-04 16:53, Toni Mueller a écrit :
getting the impression that some bits might be missing.
Well you were right, there are many missing files [1] in the
distribution ZIPs, mostly documentation and testing though. I reported
that and got no reaction so far. I've updated
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