Debian packager's block

2001-03-12 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another reason is the lack of standards in the way compilers and VMs > are run, making the installation of every new jar a problem (defining > environment variables, etc). The proposed Java policy tried to solve > this and I would suggest that work

Debian packager's block

2001-03-12 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another reason is the lack of standards in the way compilers and VMs > are run, making the installation of every new jar a problem (defining > environment variables, etc). The proposed Java policy tried to solve > this and I would suggest that wor

Re: packaging jars vs. classes

2000-11-08 Thread brlewis
Aaron Brashears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After some reflection it seems that it would make more sense to just > copy the class files in /usr/share/java so setting the classpath for > standard packages would be handled once by setting > CLASSPATH=/usr/share/java once instead of having to tack

Re: packaging jars vs. classes

2000-11-08 Thread brlewis
Aaron Brashears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After some reflection it seems that it would make more sense to just > copy the class files in /usr/share/java so setting the classpath for > standard packages would be handled once by setting > CLASSPATH=/usr/share/java once instead of having to tack

Re: guidelines for making Java software easy to package for debian?

2000-10-05 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A sort of automake for Debian/Java? Nice idea but which has implications > upstream. I suppose the ideal thing to do would be to have the GNU coding standards updated to address the issues re. installing Java programs, and to change automake to i

Re: guidelines for making Java software easy to package for debian?

2000-10-05 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Some standard would be helpful to assist in debian packaging, e.g. > > standard configure directives to specify repository vs. jar place, or > > standard install targets. What would make it easy? > > Please be more specific because the policy a

Re: guidelines for making Java software easy to package for debian?

2000-10-05 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A sort of automake for Debian/Java? Nice idea but which has implications upstream. I suppose the ideal thing to do would be to have the GNU coding standards updated to address the issues re. installing Java programs, and to change automake to imp

Re: guidelines for making Java software easy to package for debian?

2000-10-05 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Some standard would be helpful to assist in debian packaging, e.g. > > standard configure directives to specify repository vs. jar place, or > > standard install targets. What would make it easy? > > Please be more specific because the policy

guidelines for making Java software easy to package for debian?

2000-10-03 Thread brlewis
Packaging Debian software for Java is still somewhat confusing for me, and policy seems to be in flux. Perhaps it would be a better strategy for me to make BRL and Kawa trivial to package for someone experienced, and then get a current debian developer to adopt them. Some standard would be helpfu

guidelines for making Java software easy to package for debian?

2000-10-03 Thread brlewis
Packaging Debian software for Java is still somewhat confusing for me, and policy seems to be in flux. Perhaps it would be a better strategy for me to make BRL and Kawa trivial to package for someone experienced, and then get a current debian developer to adopt them. Some standard would be helpf

Re: advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-15 Thread brlewis
It occurs to me that making any such policy work will be a real pain for you or whoever does it if the "make install" targets of the upstream packages want to use ${datadir}/java as the top of the repository. This may be a better question for GNU than for Debian. Should we move the discussion to

Re: advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-15 Thread brlewis
It occurs to me that making any such policy work will be a real pain for you or whoever does it if the "make install" targets of the upstream packages want to use ${datadir}/java as the top of the repository. This may be a better question for GNU than for Debian. Should we move the discussion to

Re: advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-14 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we had a policy which meets a rough consensus, you could tell him > "Because it is The Policy" :-) Consensus among whom? Do Debian developers who don't care about Java have to be involved, or can it just be those on the debian-java list. I'm

Re: advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-14 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we had a policy which meets a rough consensus, you could tell him > "Because it is The Policy" :-) Consensus among whom? Do Debian developers who don't care about Java have to be involved, or can it just be those on the debian-java list. I'm

Re: advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-14 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because you need a place to put the jars, too (for people who prefer > them). If we choose your proposal, jars will be directly in the root > of Java classes. Is this a conflict? Foo.jar will never be a top-level directory of the Java classes. >

Re: advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-14 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because you need a place to put the jars, too (for people who prefer > them). If we choose your proposal, jars will be directly in the root > of Java classes. Is this a conflict? Foo.jar will never be a top-level directory of the Java classes.

advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-13 Thread brlewis
I'm looking at the proposed Java policy. http://www.debian.org/~bortz/Java/policy.html Why would anyone have a problem with /usr/share/java being the repository. Having a "repository" subdirectory doesn't do much to keep /usr/share/java clean, especially if lots of apps put jar files there. It

advantage of /usr/share/java/repository over /usr/share/java?

2000-09-13 Thread brlewis
I'm looking at the proposed Java policy. http://www.debian.org/~bortz/Java/policy.html Why would anyone have a problem with /usr/share/java being the repository. Having a "repository" subdirectory doesn't do much to keep /usr/share/java clean, especially if lots of apps put jar files there. It