Re: 'debian' version for libclojure-java?

2017-08-14 Thread Tom Marble
Markus Koschany writes: > I'm a bit confused here. When we worked on this package, didn't we > change the version to 1.8.x instead of 1.8.0 ? The former is correct > because new package versions like 1.8.1, 1.8.2, etc. won't break your > reverse-dependencies every time you package a new version of

'debian' version for libclojure-java?

2017-08-14 Thread Tom Marble
All: I found that in creating a Java package that depends on Clojure [0] I had to patch to a specific version [1]. I'm wondering if it would be better to depend on 'clojure' (or 'libclojure-java') as unversioned? There *is* a case where Debian developers may want to have the next (as yet unrele

Re: Notes from the DebConf 17 Java BOF

2017-08-12 Thread Tom Marble
Emmanuel Bourg writes: > Thank you for the summary Tom. How many people attended the BOF? I believe we were about 8. > On 08/09/2017 02:50 AM, Tom Marble wrote: >> 1. Making openjdk-9 the default for buster > Do we know what has improved on the reproducibility side with OpenJDK 9

Notes from the DebConf 17 Java BOF

2017-08-08 Thread Tom Marble
All: Here are my rough notes from today's BOF.. Please followup with corrections! Regards, --Tom 1. Making openjdk-9 the default for buster - Yes we should try to do this. - We will gain some fixes for reproducible builds - Chris West has done some excellent work trying to rebuild the

Re: plan to update libcomplete-clojure to 0.2.3

2014-09-17 Thread Tom Marble
Emmanuel Bourg writes: > Le 13/07/2014 18:13, Tom Marble a écrit : > >> In other news I now have the updated packaging ready for >> review (and uploading): >> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-clojure/complete-clojure.git > [...] > Do you still plan to uplo

Re: plan to update libcomplete-clojure to 0.2.3

2014-07-13 Thread Tom Marble
tony mancill writes: > On 07/10/2014 03:11 PM, Tom Marble wrote: >> >> Eugenio: >> >> Wolodja (babilen) and I are working to update the leiningen >> package and one of the deps we have is libcomplete-clojure 0.2.3 >> (currently 0.2.2 is in the archive). &

plan to update libcomplete-clojure to 0.2.3

2014-07-10 Thread Tom Marble
Eugenio: Wolodja (babilen) and I are working to update the leiningen package and one of the deps we have is libcomplete-clojure 0.2.3 (currently 0.2.2 is in the archive). Let us know if you'd like to make the update. Separately babilen is proposing we move packages which list Maintainer as Deb

please review NMU for libjffi-java and libjffi-jni (for JRuby)

2013-02-24 Thread Tom Marble
All: I am working on updated packaging for JRuby [0] and I'm starting with one of the depends JFFI [1]. But the current version of JRuby [2] uses JFFI 1.2 whereas Debian currently only has 1.0.2. So I need to update the libjffi-java and libjffi-jni packages. The current Debian packaging uses the

Re: Future of sun-java6 package ?

2011-08-25 Thread Tom Marble
On 08/25/2011 08:37 AM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > I don't think we should remove it asap. There is no emergency but I am > pretty sure this is going to happen sooner or later because of security > concerns ... Alas this is the end of the DLJ era. Ideally we clearly mark bugs in OpenJDK in our (and

Re: openjdk-6 segfaults and gcc-4.6.1 failures

2011-08-04 Thread Tom Marble
On 08/04/2011 02:41 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: > which architectures? Attempting to build on amd64. > which versions? I used openjdk-6 6b18-1.8.9-0.1 for bootstrapping, but I'm quite interested in your opinion of how far we should have openjdk-6 track upstream (IcedTea + Oracle)? > do you see addi

openjdk-6 segfaults and gcc-4.6.1 failures

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Marble
All: Just a quick note for those interested in building OpenJDK (6, 7 or 8) in unstable... I am now getting build failures on amd64... Some of these seem to be related to gcc 4.6.1 (resolved by using gcc 4.5.3) and some seem to be a new round of segfaults in openjdk-6 6b18-1.8.9-0.1. I will cont

Re: Putting Netbeans on Hold + Glassfish

2011-08-01 Thread Tom Marble
On 06/27/2011 06:29 AM, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:05:08 +0100, Andrew Ross > wrote: >> Yes, I found my mistake in orig-tar.sh when I started looking at >> re-packing the NetBeans ide zip file. I actually already included a note >> about those nbm files in debian/README.so

Re: Clojure team or maintainence within pkg-java?

2011-07-06 Thread Tom Marble
On 07/06/2011 05:56 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > I am currently working with Phil and Daigo on getting Clojure into a better > shape on Debian and we primarily work on updating the clojure{,-contrib} > packages and getting leiningen into Debian. I've noticed Phil tweeting about Debian things and w

Re: [Openjdk] Introduction GSoC Jigsaw student

2011-05-17 Thread Tom Marble
On 05/17/2011 07:13 AM, Tom Marble wrote: > On 05/17/2011 04:25 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: >> afaik, the OpenJDK8 development is currently done behind closed doors, so >> which other chance do you have besides working with 7? > > Alas you are correct. For all of the discussi

Re: [Openjdk] Introduction GSoC Jigsaw student

2011-05-17 Thread Tom Marble
On 05/17/2011 04:25 AM, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 05/17/2011 12:30 AM, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: [...] >> Did you plan to work directly on OpenJDK8 or will you try to package the >> "jigsaw" forest of opendjk7 [1] ? > > afaik, the OpenJDK8 development is currently done behind closed doors, so >

Re: [Openjdk] Introduction GSoC Jigsaw student

2011-05-16 Thread Tom Marble
On 05/16/2011 05:30 PM, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: > Did you plan to work directly on OpenJDK8 or will you try to package the > "jigsaw" forest of opendjk7 [1] ? This is an interesting question and it was too late today to ping Mandy or mr for feedback... Up until now I have been working with the

LAST CALL: Debian @ FOSDEM

2010-12-15 Thread Tom Marble
All: We extended our CFP until Friday... http://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam/2011/Fosdem/CallForParticipation And I'm pleased to report that we have talk proposals (or planned proposals) from nearly ALL the major OpenJDK players I'm planning to reprise and update my Jigsaw talk from Debconf.

CFP Now Open: Free Java @ FOSDEM 2011

2010-11-05 Thread Tom Marble
Andrew John Hughes IcedTea Maintainer, GNU Classpath Maintainer, OpenJDK & GCJ Developer Christian Thalinger OpenJDK developer, former CACAO Maintainer Mark Wielaard GNU Classpath Maintainer, GCJ, IcedTea & OpenJDK contributor. Tom Marble Java Libre hacker, Former OpenJDK Ambassador

Jigsaw vs. OSGi?

2010-10-01 Thread Tom Marble
All: Thought those interested in modularity would like a pointer to James' interesting blog post: http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2010/10/01/java-the-unipolar-moment-on-distributed-governance-for-distributed-software/ Thoughts? --Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-java-requ...@lists.deb

Re: Java webapps and configuration files

2010-08-21 Thread Tom Marble
On 08/21/2010 12:19 AM, Torsten Werner wrote: > BTW I do not like your 3rd option at all. It sounds unsupportable in > the long run and the local admin has to learn a new tool which is only > used in Debian and only for Tomcat based apps. We should either use > some existing solution or something g

Re: jar-content is updated daily now

2010-08-06 Thread Tom Marble
On 08/05/2010 01:27 PM, Torsten Werner wrote: > I am updating the file > daily > now. It lists the content of all jar files in Debian unstable. The > format is easily zgrep-able: > > $ zgrep /ObjectMap.class jar-content.txt.gz > aspec

Re: OpenJDK / default JDK for squeeze / issues on mips / open security issues for lenny

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Marble
On 07/28/2010 06:44 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > OpenJDK was just uploaded to unstable, based on the IcedTea6-1.8.1 > release [1]. This version addresses some security issues, > and this version should be shipped with squeeze A group of Debian Java developers met tonight and agreed that we would n

OpenJDK on hppa (reprise)

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Marble
All: Back in January there were some threads on this and specifically about the direction of stack growth [0] (cross posted [1] [2]). The Debian Java team has decided that as we need to support this architecture and thus I wanted to see if any others have attacked this or have any other tips abou

Re: BoF 19:30 today [was Re: Debian Java Next Steps - ad-hoc Meeting]

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Marble
On 08/05/2010 10:00 AM, Tom Marble wrote: > As we are going to be talking I propose that we meet in 414 Schapiro > (at a minimum we can meet there and go somewhere else if there > is a conflict). As Shapiro is locked we are meeting in the CS Hacklab. --Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

BoF 19:30 today [was Re: Debian Java Next Steps - ad-hoc Meeting]

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Marble
On 08/04/2010 11:00 AM, Tom Marble wrote: > All at DebConf10: > > We raised many issues and had fantastic discussions during > the Java Track on Monday [0]. > > The purpose of this mail is to ask you to please take > the enclosed poll [1] such that we can insure to have at

Slides from the Free Java Jigsaw Puzzle

2010-08-04 Thread Tom Marble
All: I have uploaded the slides [0] from my talk on Monday [1] to penta. The video is not yet posted, but I'll update the link as soon as it is. If you attended the talk please give feedback (see [1])! Thanks, --Tom [0] http://info9.net/downloads/jigsaw.pdf [1] http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_s

Debian Java Next Steps - ad-hoc Meeting

2010-08-04 Thread Tom Marble
All at DebConf10: We raised many issues and had fantastic discussions during the Java Track on Monday [0]. The purpose of this mail is to ask you to please take the enclosed poll [1] such that we can insure to have at least one more face to face discussion to work out how to coordinate things goi

Re: Debian Java meetup @ NYC Saturday 31

2010-07-27 Thread Tom Marble
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: >> However, like Matt, I will arrive too late (about 18pm in JFK) > > That is late. I arrived at 4pm today and waited more than 2 hours at > immigration. :-( I'll go ahead and apologize now for the less than warm welcome in the USA (inclu

Debian Java meetup @ NYC Saturday 31

2010-07-26 Thread Tom Marble
All: For those of you attending Debconf who will be in NYC this Saturday we are hoping to get together informally. For those of us arriving earlier we will try to get together in the afternoon (before dinner). For everyone else perhaps we can find a pint after dinner. Please RSVP on debian-jav

Re: Debian Java track at DebConf 10

2010-04-26 Thread Tom Marble
Pablo Duboue wrote: > I'd like to coordinate a Debian-Java track in DebConf10 Sounds like a good idea! We should encourage related language (e.g. Clojure) talks as well. > * A talk explaining the current state of the Java Policy and where we want to > take it in the longer term. Doesn't need to b

Re: OpenJDK and the Free Java Packaging Roadmap

2007-06-22 Thread Tom Marble
Petteri Räty wrote: > Tom Marble kirjoitti: >> Tom Marble wrote: >>> I did upload my slides from today's talk to the website, but it >>> appears the URL has not shown up yet? [1] As soon as I can point >>> you to the slides I will. >>> [...]

Re: OpenJDK and the Free Java Packaging Roadmap

2007-06-21 Thread Tom Marble
Tom Marble wrote: > I did upload my slides from today's talk to the website, but it > appears the URL has not shown up yet? [1] As soon as I can point > you to the slides I will. > [...] > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Java/JavaPolicy2007 Following up one's own post is r

OpenJDK and the Free Java Packaging Roadmap

2007-06-21 Thread Tom Marble
All: I did upload my slides from today's talk to the website, but it appears the URL has not shown up yet? [1] As soon as I can point you to the slides I will. I also wanted to let you know that I have setup a wiki page to work on documenting the Policy issues I've mentioned previously on the li

GNU/Linux Java Policy and Packaging

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Marble
All: I'm very much looking forward to working Java Policy and Packaging issues at Debconf7. There has been some great discussion about this recently from Paul, Manfred, Matthew and others. And, of course, there is a lot of documentation out there [1]. My proposal is that, if folks agree, that w

Re: Sun's OpenJDK in Debian?

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Marble
Jens Seidel wrote: > I'm surprised that this wasn't discussed already in the past on this list > (or in the BTS of some important java packages), but what is the status > of Sun's Java architecture in Debian? > > It is licensed under GPL2 and should be compatible with DFSG. As previously discusse

Re: Missing .jinfo files (Was: Re: Switching between different JDK implementations (Debian alternative system & Java))

2006-09-28 Thread Tom Marble
Holger Rauch wrote: > But invoking "update-java-alternatives -l" as root gives me: > > awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file /usr/lib/jvm/*.jinfo' for reading > (No such file or directory) > > The directry "jvm" doesn't exist at all in /usr/lib. Where do those .jinfo > files come from? > > I

Re: Switching between different JDK implementations (Debian alternative system & Java)

2006-09-28 Thread Tom Marble
Holger Rauch wrote: > When wanting to switch between different JDK implementations on Debian, it > seems to me one has to use "update-alternatives --config" for each > individual binary that's in a JDK. That's sort of awkward. Is there really > no wrapper script that I can pass the vendor and/or ve

Re: JavaMail and JAF

2006-08-31 Thread Tom Marble
Marcus Better wrote: > the pkg-jboss project needs DFSG-free versions of Sun's JavaMail and Java > Activation Framework libraries. Can anyone tell me whether the GNU versions > (already in Debian) will work out of the box? Why not use Sun's JavaMail and JAF? As of April they are now Free software

Re: Java policy change proposal: runtime/compiler selection

2006-08-23 Thread Tom Marble
Matthias Klose wrote: > Tom Marble writes: >> Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: >>> Currently, there is update-java-alternatives in java-common to manage >>> the various java commands and how they refer to which implementation. >>> People can however ignore it and up

Re: Handling native libs within a Virtual Machine

2006-08-23 Thread Tom Marble
Matthias Klose wrote: >> If I follow the instructions for "Local installation" [2] which keeping >> Debian Policy [3] in mind I then can do the following (to simulate > > local installations should never install directly into /usr, always in > /usr/local. I think the Debian packaging guidelines a

Re: ArithmeticException: / by zero in XIconWindow

2006-08-22 Thread Tom Marble
Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > I know it´s probably linked to a proprietary Java (I know that some people > from Sun have now sneaked in ;-), Not to worry... we are safely off in "non-free" (that is until Java is completely liberated!) > but is someone aware of the problem > described under: > ht

Re: concerning a lib that can't be found

2006-08-22 Thread Tom Marble
Renato Serodio wrote: > I've been experiencing some annoying behaviour on the part of my java > applications. I've managed to track the problem to a file the java > executable can't find. [...] > > Calling either from the command line works a charm. Calling any from the > menu does... > > ...noth

Re: Handling native libs within a Virtual Machine

2006-08-22 Thread Tom Marble
Juergen Kreileder wrote: > Tom Marble wrote: >> Current Debian Java Policy [1] in section "Chapter 2.1: Virtual Machines" >> stipulates "If a virtual machine supports native code, it must include >> the >> directory /usr/lib/jni in its search path for thes

Handling native libs within a Virtual Machine

2006-08-21 Thread Tom Marble
All: Current Debian Java Policy [1] in section "Chapter 2.1: Virtual Machines" stipulates "If a virtual machine supports native code, it must include the directory /usr/lib/jni in its search path for these dynamic libraries." There is no rationale given for this policy choice and I fail to see th

Re: Java policy change proposal: runtime/compiler selection

2006-08-21 Thread Tom Marble
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Currently, there is update-java-alternatives in java-common to manage > the various java commands and how they refer to which implementation. > People can however ignore it and update-alternatives themselves, things > can get out-of-sync, and how to set priorities is

Re: Netbeans...

2006-07-15 Thread Tom Marble
Redefined Horizons wrote: > Is anybody using NetBeans for Java development on Debian, or is > everyone using Eclipse? Not *everyone* uses Eclipse ! ;-) > Is anyone working on a Debian package for > Netbeans? > > If no one is working on one and I try to put one together, will > someone on the list

Re: Bug#369950: eclipse could is not search in the right place for sun-java5-jdk

2006-07-09 Thread Tom Marble
All: Please note that 1. The Eclipse packaging predates the recent changes in java-common (>= 0.25) which is part of a broader Debian Java Policy initiative to harmonize access to multiple implementations [1]. At some point the Eclipse packaging should simply start with /usr/bin/ja

Re: Bug#369950: eclipse could is not search in the right place for sun-java5-jdk

2006-07-09 Thread Tom Marble
(sorry, sent previously to the wrong bug number :-( ) All: Please note that 1. The Eclipse packaging predates the recent changes in java-common (>= 0.25) which is part of a broader Debian Java Policy initiative to harmonize access to multiple implementations [1]. At some point the Ec

Re: Java and Ghostscript

2006-05-30 Thread Tom Marble
Michael Koch wrote: >> | On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 09:25:55PM +0100, Carlos Correia wrote: >> |>I tried that, but then it unistalls 'cupsys' and Java's PrintJob returns >> |>the message 'No print service found', so it seems that I do need cupsys >> |>(or gs-eps) to print from Java!? Carlos do you ha

Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler...

2006-05-26 Thread Tom Marble
All: In reviewing the proposed changes to Debian Java Policy [1] [2] please allow me to make the following suggestions: 1. With respect to virtual packages [3] I understand that Debian Policy does not allow packages in "main" to depend on packages in "non-free". Therefore a distinction

Re: priorities for java alternatives

2006-05-24 Thread Tom Marble
Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > Speaking of alternatives, it would be nice to have a mean to completely > switch from one Java alternative to another. Currently you need to modify > more than 10 different alternatives in order to switch from e.g. kaffe to > Sun's Java or back. > I don't know how thi

Re: Towards Java Libre

2006-05-18 Thread Tom Marble
Arnaud: Please allow me to elaborate on some points not covered by David > I saw a sun-jdk-source package or something... that means all those who > install this package and look at the sources will not be able to help > GNU Classpath. In my POV, one of the important thing we can do in Debian

Re: Towards Java Libre

2006-05-17 Thread Tom Marble
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Tom Marble a écrit : >>> We haven't had an opportunity to meet yet as >>> so many things have happened so quickly. > > Hi Tom, welcome on debian-java ;-) > [...] > > Thanks to inform me ;-) It seems no one from Debian thin

Towards Java Libre

2006-05-16 Thread Tom Marble
Arnaud: We haven't had an opportunity to meet yet as so many things have happened so quickly. Let me give you a pointer to some key events taking place today: Java: Hot and Spicy for GNU/Linux http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/tmarble#java_hot_and_spicy_for More soon! --Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE