Re: Eclipse 2.0 on Debian (unstable?) with GTK

2002-07-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin A. Burton) > Subject: Eclipse 2.0 on Debian (unstable?) with GTK > Date: 10 Jul 2002 15:05:27 -0700 > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: > > /usr/home/burton/download/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk_2.0.0/os/linux/x86/libswt-pi-gtk-2047.so

Re: Eclipse 2.0 on Debian (unstable?) with GTK

2002-07-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
t work. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin A. Burton) > Subject: Eclipse 2.0 on Debian (unstable?) with GTK > Date: 10 Jul 2002 15:05:27 -0700 > > java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: >/usr/home/burton/download/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk_2.0.0/os/linux/x86/libswt-pi-gtk-2047.so

Eclipse 2.0 on Debian (unstable?) with GTK

2002-07-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:248) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:698) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:534) - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Fran

Eclipse 2.0 on Debian (unstable?) with GTK

2002-07-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
a:324) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:248) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:698) at org.eclipse.core.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:534) - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Fran

Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-dead mailing list is for people who love Java but are *very* concerned. Please feel free to forward this email or link to the mailing list from your site. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell

Java is dead... but it could still be saved!

2002-02-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-dead mailing list is for people who love Java but are *very* concerned. Please feel free to forward this email or link to the mailing list from your site. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
understand your point. The important thing here is that the CLASSPATH is not updated and the System ClassLoader is not used. Tomcat uses an adaptive classloader so that WEB-INF/lib/*.jar files are specific to each Web Application. Thus we have the ability to run incompatible libs in different a

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
er. :) > But look at the TRAX API, the TRAX classes included in Xalan call concrete > Xalan classes in the TRAX factory classes (it has to, somehow). Another XSLT > processor will call their own concrete classes in the TRAX. So TRAX of Xalan > conflicts with TRAX of [fill in any other TRA

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
hat "revolution"? It is now called JXTA :) - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org/ If you were plowing a fiel

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
understand your point. The important thing here is that the CLASSPATH is not updated and the System ClassLoader is not used. Tomcat uses an adaptive classloader so that WEB-INF/lib/*.jar files are specific to each Web Application. Thus we have the ability to run incompatible libs in different a

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
TRAX API, the TRAX classes included in Xalan call concrete > Xalan classes in the TRAX factory classes (it has to, somehow). Another XSLT > processor will call their own concrete classes in the TRAX. So TRAX of Xalan > conflicts with TRAX of [fill in any other TRAX-implementing XSLT p

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Kevin A. Burton
appened to that "revolution"? It is now called JXTA :) - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web - http://relativity.yi.org/ If you were plowing a fiel

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:29:44AM -0800, Kevin A. Burton wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
existence. > > And they're right, if you take into account that a cross-platform app needs a > cross-platform package management system. There is nothing like that now, and > Java projects will rightly continue to bundle jars until there is. What about the Java Web Launch

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:29:44AM -0800, Kevin A. Burton wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
ence. > > And they're right, if you take into account that a cross-platform app needs a > cross-platform package management system. There is nothing like that now, and > Java projects will rightly continue to bundle jars until there is. What about the Java Web Launch system. Has an

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
in any form. My point was that if there are *existing* packages which have non-free .jars this is VERY important to correct. > > I seriously hope that we don't have packages with non-free libs. If this > > happens it would be a big issue :( > > It already is an issue. L

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
seriously hope that we don't have packages with non-free libs. If this happens it would be a big issue :( Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
hat if we moved all of /usr/share/man and /usr/share/info in > there; otherwise what would be the point? And doing so would be like putting > a square peg into a round hole. Let's stick to javadoc. - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-09 Thread Kevin A. Burton
m. My point was that if there are *existing* packages which have non-free .jars this is VERY important to correct. > > I seriously hope that we don't have packages with non-free libs. If this > > happens it would be a big issue :( > > It already is an issue. Look fo

Re: STOP INCLUDING EXTERNAL JARS IN YOUR JAVA PACKAGES!

2001-11-08 Thread Kevin A. Burton
seriously hope that we don't have packages with non-free libs. If this happens it would be a big issue :( Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-08 Thread Kevin A. Burton
hat if we moved all of /usr/share/man and /usr/share/info in > there; otherwise what would be the point? And doing so would be like putting > a square peg into a round hole. Let's stick to javadoc. - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-08 Thread Kevin A. Burton
> > other languages > > Why not use /usr/share/doc/javadoc instead? > I think it a better place, easier to find and more consistent. +1... sounds good to me... Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Fr

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-08 Thread Kevin A. Burton
> > other languages > > Why not use /usr/share/doc/javadoc instead? > I think it a better place, easier to find and more consistent. +1... sounds good to me... Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Fr

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
x27; is not specificaly related to java, could also be used by > > other languages > > And yes, I'd use javadoc too. Otherwise, we might just as well use > the /usr/share/man hierarchy. hm... so what is the answer? - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTE

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
quot; > documentation? For libraries the former is the most important information > there is ... Because most people won't care about API documentation. If I want to download and use KOffice I obviously don't care about API documentation. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
x27; is not specificaly related to java, could also be used by > > other languages > > And yes, I'd use javadoc too. Otherwise, we might just as well use > the /usr/share/man hierarchy. hm... so what is the answer? - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTE

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-04 Thread Kevin A. Burton
quot; > documentation? For libraries the former is the most important information > there is ... Because most people won't care about API documentation. If I want to download and use KOffice I obviously don't care about API documentation. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-03 Thread Kevin A. Burton
the problem. What if I want to generate my API doc with different packages (doxygen, gjdoc, javadoc), or even by hand. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PRO

Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-03 Thread Kevin A. Burton
the problem. What if I want to generate my API doc with different packages (doxygen, gjdoc, javadoc), or even by hand. Kevin - -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 Jabber - [EMAIL PRO

Re: Content needed for the Debian Java FAQ

2001-11-02 Thread Kevin A. Burton
o the job (some people offered in the past but none of them got to do > any real work), please say so. I am still getting up to speed with the state of Debian Java. Right now I run Debian but a custom JVM environment. I might take up the FAQ when I feel comfortable with the new env. Kevin - -

Re: Content needed for the Debian Java FAQ

2001-11-02 Thread Kevin A. Burton
o the job (some people offered in the past but none of them got to do > any real work), please say so. I am still getting up to speed with the state of Debian Java. Right now I run Debian but a custom JVM environment. I might take up the FAQ when I feel comfortable with the new env. Kevin - -

Re: [Jikesrvm-researchers] Congratulations on Jikes-RVM 2.0 - questions about licensing.

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
ote > > > I would suggest that a sub-project be started to integrate > > the code from GNU Classpath which should be able to replace the JLibrary > code. > > As the last sentence says, we would also encourage such an activity. Excellent. Thanks for the response. Kevin - --

Congratulations on Jikes-RVM 2.0 - questions about licensing.

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
M release as I think that the lack of a quality (stable) Open Source JVM is hurting both the Java and Open Source communities. Thanks. Kevin - -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: [Jikesrvm-researchers] Congratulations on Jikes-RVM 2.0 - questions about licensing.

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
ote > > > I would suggest that a sub-project be started to integrate > > the code from GNU Classpath which should be able to replace the JLibrary > code. > > As the last sentence says, we would also encourage such an activity. Excellent. Thanks for the response. Kevin - --

Congratulations on Jikes-RVM 2.0 - questions about licensing.

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
t the RVM release as I think that the lack of a quality (stable) Open Source JVM is hurting both the Java and Open Source communities. Thanks. Kevin - -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: Jikes RVM - IBM's Free virtual machine for Java

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
LIBRARIES with JIKES RVM." OUCH! I think I will stay clear of the RVM. Not only is it experimental but it is more proprietary and buggier (by definition) than the SUN JVM... :) Kevin -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EM

Re: Jikes RVM - IBM's Free virtual machine for Java

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
in Debian that would be *great* and it would solve a *lot* of issues. Kevin -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell -

Re: Jikes RVM - IBM's Free virtual machine for Java

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
he JLIBRARIES with JIKES RVM." OUCH! I think I will stay clear of the RVM. Not only is it experimental but it is more proprietary and buggier (by definition) than the SUN JVM... :) Kevin -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EM

Re: Jikes RVM - IBM's Free virtual machine for Java

2001-10-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
in Debian that would be *great* and it would solve a *lot* of issues. Kevin -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell -

Re: jpackage project presentation

2001-10-18 Thread Kevin A. Burton
w many people aren't running GCJ. I would be *very* excited to see this! Kevin - -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location: San Francisco, CA Cell: 415-595-9965 URL:

Re: jpackage project presentation

2001-10-18 Thread Kevin A. Burton
w many people aren't running GCJ. I would be *very* excited to see this! Kevin - -- Need a good Engineer? Hire me! ( Java | P2P | XML | Linux | Open Source ) Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Location: San Francisco, CA Cell: 415-595-9965 URL: