Re: The most popular java packages in contrib

2005-08-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
>libnbio-java 3 This package doesn't exist in the archive any more (it hasn't in years). I guess popcon is reporting on what people have installed regardless of whether the package is available any more. Anyway, libnbio2-java is in main. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pg

Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

2004-03-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:14:56PM +0100, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > And 7.4 details how the QA handles orphaning packages maintained by > > inactive maintainers. > > I'd like someone to point me where is the reference of the ITH?! It's > the second time I read about ITH but I don't know where to s

Re: [Fwd: Re: [architecture] Re: JPackages and ObjectWeb]

2004-02-02 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > >For #8: > > >We should add that all jars should have a manifest (but without > > >Class-Path). Ant can autogenerate a manifest, or does, I forget? > > > > BTW: I never yet touched Manifests, what are they actually for? :) > > Manifests are a child of java applets. Sun needed a place to put

Re: trying to install tomcat 4.1.24 from unstable

2003-07-14 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I'm trying to install Tomcat 4.1.24-2 from the unstable section, > and I'm running into a wall. It depends on "j2re1.4" or > "java2-runtime", neither of which seems to exist. I have > installed the Sun JDK 1.4.1_02 manually, so there actually is a > Java 1.4 runtime, and I i

Re: trying to install tomcat 4.1.24 from unstable

2003-07-14 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I'm trying to install Tomcat 4.1.24-2 from the unstable section, > and I'm running into a wall. It depends on "j2re1.4" or > "java2-runtime", neither of which seems to exist. I have > installed the Sun JDK 1.4.1_02 manually, so there actually is a > Java 1.4 runtime, and I i

Re: Debianized Eclipse 2.1M5

2003-02-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Just tried that and it seems to work; there're a few > > nuissances with this option, but no showstoppers. > > Pardon, what does 'nuissances' mean? I can't find such a word in my > dictionary. Just a misspelling of nuisance, I think. :) KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perso

Re: Debianized Eclipse 2.1M5

2003-02-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Just tried that and it seems to work; there're a few > > nuissances with this option, but no showstoppers. > > Pardon, what does 'nuissances' mean? I can't find such a word in my > dictionary. Just a misspelling of nuisance, I think. :) KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perso

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> From policy: > "Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime > and/or java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest) > java-virtual-machine." Right. I will use this: Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common Suggests: java-virtual-machine I think

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> From policy: > "Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime and/or >java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest) java-virtual-machine." Right. I will use this: Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common Suggests: java-virtual-machine I think tha

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement. Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along the way :), so to su

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement. Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along the way :), so to su

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the > default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you > should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one. > > If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the > default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you > should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one. > > If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> $ apt-cache show kaffe > ..snip.. > Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime > > So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency > for kaffe. Ok, that makes sense. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Personal Homepage: http://www.sk

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> $ apt-cache show kaffe > ..snip.. > Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime > > So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency > for kaffe. Ok, that makes sense. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Personal Homepage: http://www.sk

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > You should list the working package first : > > > > working-java | java-common > > And it should look like this instead. > > working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovic

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > You should list the working package first : > > > > working-java | java-common > > And it should look like this instead. > > working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovic

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 01:10:35PM -0700, Tom Tromey wrote: > Kenneth> The error I got from gij (below my signature) it a little out > Kenneth> of my league. > > You're getting an UnsatisfiedLinkError. That probably means that some > native code wasn't loaded by the application. Without knowing

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 01:10:35PM -0700, Tom Tromey wrote: > Kenneth> The error I got from gij (below my signature) it a little out > Kenneth> of my league. > > You're getting an UnsatisfiedLinkError. That probably means that some > native code wasn't loaded by the application. Without knowing

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work wi

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work wi

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report? > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html > That way we at least know about the issue. > > Also Kaff

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report? > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html > That way we at least know about the issue. > > Also Kaff

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to > install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also > means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe > there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the > j2sdk1.3 is a

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or > non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of > the licencing issues. > > Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really > satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to > install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also > means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe > there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the > j2sdk1.3 is a

j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build dependency on j2sdk1.3 cannot be satisfied on all 13 platforms? http://qa.deb

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or > non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of > the licencing issues. > > Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really > satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build

j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build dependency on j2sdk1.3 cannot be satisfied on all 13 platforms? http://qa.deb

Re: libnbio-java versioning

2002-08-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> >>I maintain libnbio-java, which is a JNI non-blocking socket IO package > >>for Java. My current .deb is for upstream version 1.5. The upstream > >>maintainer has just released version 2.0, and the only difference from > >>version 1.5 is that the package name changed from mdw.java to seda.java

Re: libnbio-java versioning

2002-08-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> >>I maintain libnbio-java, which is a JNI non-blocking socket IO package > >>for Java. My current .deb is for upstream version 1.5. The upstream > >>maintainer has just released version 2.0, and the only difference from > >>version 1.5 is that the package name changed from mdw.java to seda.jav

libnbio-java versioning

2002-08-01 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I maintain libnbio-java, which is a JNI non-blocking socket IO package for Java. My current .deb is for upstream version 1.5. The upstream maintainer has just released version 2.0, and the only difference from version 1.5 is that the package name changed from mdw.java to seda.java. Does anyone h

libnbio-java versioning

2002-08-01 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I maintain libnbio-java, which is a JNI non-blocking socket IO package for Java. My current .deb is for upstream version 1.5. The upstream maintainer has just released version 2.0, and the only difference from version 1.5 is that the package name changed from mdw.java to seda.java. Does anyone

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-25 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: > >http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ > > which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to > the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top > of standard socket calls like poll().

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-25 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: > >http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ > > which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to > the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top > of standard socket calls like poll()

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-13 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Hi, Kenneth! Hi! Boy, all of you who wanted to see how the Java package-building process goes are sure getting to see a lot - mostly my mistakes. ;-) I think my problem here is that the only .deb I have messed with before was the mutt .deb, and I am beginning to understand that it does things

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-13 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Hi, Kenneth! Hi! Boy, all of you who wanted to see how the Java package-building process goes are sure getting to see a lot - mostly my mistakes. ;-) I think my problem here is that the only .deb I have messed with before was the mutt .deb, and I am beginning to understand that it does things

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> (1)Do you know 'lintian'? If not, please try it with following > (2)Java package name is libXXX-java. Both done and uploaded to the same URLs as before. There are now no lintian warnings. The package name was changed as requested and versioned 1.4-1. > (3)Build-Depends field is incomplete.

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> (1)Do you know 'lintian'? If not, please try it with following > (2)Java package name is libXXX-java. Both done and uploaded to the same URLs as before. There are now no lintian warnings. The package name was changed as requested and versioned 1.4-1. > (3)Build-Depends field is incomplete.

Re: about JNI (Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O))

2002-02-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I mean that other than Java use LD_LIBRARY_PATH. So, LD_LIBRARY_PATH > shouldn't be defined _system-wide_. I think LD_LIBRARY_PATH should be > defined at _startup script_. > For example, ant has startup script in /usr/bin/ant. If ant use JNI > (in fact, it's not used), LD_LIBRARY_PATH is defined

Re: about JNI (Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O))

2002-02-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I mean that other than Java use LD_LIBRARY_PATH. So, LD_LIBRARY_PATH > shouldn't be defined _system-wide_. I think LD_LIBRARY_PATH should be > defined at _startup script_. > For example, ant has startup script in /usr/bin/ant. If ant use JNI > (in fact, it's not used), LD_LIBRARY_PATH is define

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-11 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: > >http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ > > which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to > the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top > of standard socket calls like poll().

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-11 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: > >http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ > > which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to > the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top > of standard socket calls like poll()

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-11 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> >4) Is it my responsibility to ensure that the system-wide > > $LD_LIBRARY_PATH includes /usr/lib/java (or /usr/lib/java/jni), > > so that the JNI libraries are found? > > IMO, You should not defined it. Because JNI libraries are used by only > Java applications. Java applicati

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> IMO, You should not defined it. Because JNI libraries are used by only > Java applications. Java applications should define $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > when they are executed. > > regards, > > Takashi Okamoto Thanks for all of the feedback. That's enough to work with for now. KEN -- Kenneth J.

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> IMO, You should not defined it. Because JNI libraries are used by only > Java applications. Java applications should define $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > when they are executed. > > regards, > > Takashi Okamoto Thanks for all of the feedback. That's enough to work with for now. KEN -- Kenneth J.

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[Sorry for the long email; I have a lot of questions.] > http://people.debian.org/~opal/java/policy.html/ > http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2001/debian-java-200107/msg0.html I did read the policy, and I have now looked over the JNI email thread. I'm a little confused about how the policy

Re: NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-09 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[Sorry for the long email; I have a lot of questions.] > http://people.debian.org/~opal/java/policy.html/ > http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2001/debian-java-200107/msg0.html I did read the policy, and I have now looked over the JNI email thread. I'm a little confused about how the policy

NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-08 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top of standard socket calls like poll(). Has anyone e

NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-08 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top of standard socket calls like poll(). Has anyone

Re: It's a simple and easy-to-follow plan and EVERY website will want this service

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Perhaps one of these filter programs can be placed on > the debian-java e-mail server and filter things centrally > for all of us. Good idea, or bad? This discussion has gone 'round and 'round on a number of the other lists, in particular -curiosa and -security. It sounds like some spam is alr

Re: It's a simple and easy-to-follow plan and EVERY website will want this service

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Is there any way to get this spam trash out of our e-mail list? > > The first I heard of this spam was the message from you - razor caught it > for me and I never saw it. > > Since I installed it 2 months ago, it has caught 620 spam mails and had one > false positive. I move the mails into a

Re: It's a simple and easy-to-follow plan and EVERY website will want this service

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Perhaps one of these filter programs can be placed on > the debian-java e-mail server and filter things centrally > for all of us. Good idea, or bad? This discussion has gone 'round and 'round on a number of the other lists, in particular -curiosa and -security. It sounds like some spam is al

Re: It's a simple and easy-to-follow plan and EVERY website will want this service

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Is there any way to get this spam trash out of our e-mail list? > > The first I heard of this spam was the message from you - razor caught it > for me and I never saw it. > > Since I installed it 2 months ago, it has caught 620 spam mails and had one > false positive. I move the mails into