Gnazdowsky, Ken writes:
> 9.1. What is the SCSL?
> --
>
> The SCSL is the "Sun Community Software License" that can be found at:
> http://www.sun.com/ ... .
http://www.sun.com/software/communitysource/faq.html
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a writes:
> I'm attaching the latest revision I've had time to make to the
> Debian/JAVA faq.. I appreciate new contributions, of course,
It might be worth to add some explicit comments on the SCSL,
and why free software has a problem with Java2. Here's a rough
dra
A request for clarification: it is my understanding that the
IBM JDK port for Linux can not be packaged for Debian because
of licensing that requires RedHat. I also remember reading
that IBM and RedHat have some kind of distribution agreement.
Finally, I read a claim that Bruce Perens is/was talki
rtaking, and (c) of other free
> Java projects, only Kaffe claims to fully implement Java 1.1.
Agreed on all 3. Further, implementing Java2 is a legal minefield.
Actually, I'd trade AWT for JNI any day, but I'm not the typical
Java coder.
> Bernd Kreimeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
John Goerzen wrote:
> > > * Compiler (to native executable)
> > GCC, the Gnu Compiler Collection comes with GCJ, the Gnu Compiler for Java
>
> Also, not sure where it gets its class libraries from, but it doesn't
> seem to even fully implement Java 1.1! (No AWT!)
No JNI, actually. Cygnus favors
> I always thought the missing link for free Java was the lack of a free
> standard Java library implementation (hence projects like
> www.classpath.org); is that problem addressed now?
To my understanding gcj has it's own libgcj, which has to duplicate
all Classpath effortsndue to CNI. Pure Java
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> compiling the XML (hence the copy to debian-sgml) in native code with gcj.
> This means that we can run any application [...w/o] a Java virtual machine
> This withdraws a serious objection against Java ("Java is not really free
> since we depend on Sun's virtual machin
http://www.crn.com/dailies/digest/dailyarchives.asp?ArticleID=11586
Quote:
Sun can either grant ECMA the right to use
its copyrighted materials to craft its
standard, let ECMA form standards on the
basis of submissions from other committee
members, or disband the committee and halt the
> > Linus can place all his
> > personally written code under a different license at any time,
> > he can't do that for code written by others. One effect
> > of the GPL/LGPL license is that contributions from others
> > infect your work, taking away your freedom to change the
> > licensing for the
> Java is being taught in many schools, mine included, as the default
>
> Some very nice points, but I doubt the hurd will be able to serve as the
> magic bullet.
>
> comments?
Java the language (sans all the added classes) might well be
implemented using a different VM. The school does not car
Ean R . Schuessler writes:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:05:19PM -0700, Cris J. Holdorph wrote:
> > This has been discussed before. I have pointed out that you do NOT need to
> > sign the SCSL to purchase a book that describes the specification of the
> > JVM
> > and the Java 2 class librarie
Ean R . Schuessler writes:
> With the SCSL it is NOT POSSIBLE to produce a free implementation
Here's a quote I posted on the Kaffe list a while ago:
--- snip -
Tim Wilkinson writes:
> Also, has anyone got a legal opinion of using the 1.2 spec
Ean R . Schuessler writes:
> It is now clear to me that Sun is engaging in one of the most
> effective attempts to hijack the tenets of the free software movement
> to date.
Agreed. It is a logical progression of their 1995 marketing
strategy, which has been extraordinarily successful in
drawin
Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
> >- defining a Java equivalent to libc
> > (collection of utility classes shared among Java "binaries")
>
> Isn't it java.lang.* ?
Depends on what you are looking for. JTar? Getopt? Maybe
libj is not the right word, but Giant Java Tree is not the
altern
Cris J. Holdorph writes:
> The debian-java list and Debian's interaction with Java has been
> the only thing that has come close to pushing me away from Debian
> entirely. For the last 2 full years, I've been doing Java
> development full time. Excluding a couple months, I've done all
> of t
Cris J. Holdorph writes:
> Bernd Kreimeier Writes:
> > When we can implement find etc. in pure Java, and create
> > ELF as well as a bytecode from the same Java source using
> > the basis to formulate a policy, or even plot a roadmap on how
> > Java could make
Mark W. Eichin writes:
> [goes back to lurking until free-java is good enough to consider as an
> *only* java environment :-)]
Yeah. It's not only that we'd need an LGPL'ed VM and core
classes, and a GPL'ed compiler. I tried to make this point
last year that we would need some kind of experiment
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