Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread sre4ever
Le 2024-11-29 12:49, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : I'm not a big fan of potentially long lived experimental packages as it makes updates in sid more complicated. For example let's say the package foo has the version 1.0 in sid/testing and the version 3.0 in experimental, the upstream and pristine-

Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Julien, On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 12:40:36PM +0100, sre4e...@free.fr wrote: > By the way, any opinion about making that new gradle a "gradle8" package > that provides "gradle"? this would imho be good once things around gradle8 stabilize and people had time to migrate. I'd rather not have peo

Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread sre4ever
Le 2024-11-29 11:58, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : Maybe jumping to recent and stable Gradle/Kotlin releases would be easier, but does that even exist? Is there a couple a Gradle and Kotlin releases that can be used to build each other (and themself). I haven't checked Kotlin yet, but recent relea

Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 29/11/2024 à 12:40, sre4e...@free.fr a écrit : Or maybe we can keep all of them in experimental for a while, and duplicate only those that prove (or are suspected eventually, after discussing that) to be problematic? I would rather keep things as straightforward as possible with the depende

Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread sre4ever
Hi Emmanuel, Le 2024-11-29 11:42, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit : Markus raises a good point, I would add that if there is a risk at some point of breaking the existing packages after upgrading a dependency, then introducing a new package for the updated dependency is the way to go. We can deduplic

Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 27/11/2024 à 09:16, sre4e...@free.fr a écrit : Both Gradle and Kotlin are moving targets indeed, and they were moving even faster around these releases according to their respective histories, which probably explains why you (and nobody else as a fact) weren't able to catch up: it might wel

Re: gradle reboot

2024-11-29 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 26/11/2024 à 14:09, Markus Koschany a écrit : I discarded the idea to upgrade Gradle to 6.x or even newer releases because the main problem with Gradle for Debian is the complex interaction between its (build)-dependencies. Since we only support one version of a library in general, you will q