Re: old version of scala

2019-02-14 Thread Thomas Finneid
On 14.02.2019 18:19, Markus Koschany wrote: Experimental is merely a playground for developers who think their packages are not ready for unstable yet. What you usually do is to bootstrap the package and build all those parts that are essential to get a functional compiler/build tool. Then you

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Robert, Some comments with my Maven package maintainer hat. Le 12/02/2019 à 20:09, Robert Scholte a écrit : > I'm also wondering how you build Maven, since Maven is > being built with Maven. That should be a challenge to also rebuild all > plugins, etc. The maven package is rebuilt with the

Re: old version of scala

2019-02-14 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 14.02.19 um 17:45 schrieb Thomas Finneid: > On 14.02.2019 11:55, Markus Koschany wrote:> > >> What you can do of course is to patch sbt or scala. We use so-called >> quilt patches. For instance take a look at sbt. In debian/patches you >> can see several Debian specific patches that change the

Re: sbt / scala and jdk 6 and 8

2019-02-14 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 14.02.19 um 17:21 schrieb Thomas Finneid: > On 14.02.2019 11:43, Markus Koschany wrote:> [btw are you subscribed to > the list? Then I don't need to CC you] > > Sorry, it seemed I had subscribed to the wrong java list, but should be > fixed now. > >>> No matter how one looks at it, Debian nee

Re: Re: old version of scala

2019-02-14 Thread Thomas Finneid
On 14.02.2019 11:55, Markus Koschany wrote:> > What you can do of course is to patch sbt or scala. We use so-called > quilt patches. For instance take a look at sbt. In debian/patches you > can see several Debian specific patches that change the default Maven > repository for example. Thats what

Re: Re: sbt / scala and jdk 6 and 8

2019-02-14 Thread Thomas Finneid
On 14.02.2019 11:43, Markus Koschany wrote:> [btw are you subscribed to the list? Then I don't need to CC you] Sorry, it seemed I had subscribed to the wrong java list, but should be fixed now. >> No matter how one looks at it, Debian needs to make a strategy change >> regarding OpenJdk relea

Re: Fwd: FOSDEM 19 Debian Java talk

2019-02-14 Thread Gary Gregory
Jar manifest files carry data like "built-by" and implementation information: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/packageman.html Why not reuse "Implementation-Vendor" or invent a new entry and put "Debian" in there. Maven can display this additional information on "mvn -versio

Re: old version of scala

2019-02-14 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 14.02.19 um 00:22 schrieb Thomas Finneid: > > > On 12.02.2019 22:40, Markus Koschany wrote: >> There are different rules for contrib and non-free. [1] You could >> package scala and sbt for contrib, because both pieces of software >> comply with the DFSG. If you use a prebuilt package for bui

Re: sbt / scala and jdk 6 and 8

2019-02-14 Thread Markus Koschany
[btw are you subscribed to the list? Then I don't need to CC you] Am 14.02.19 um 00:09 schrieb Thomas Finneid: [...] > No matter how one looks at it, Debian needs to make a strategy change > regarding OpenJdk releases and versions supported. We did take all that into consideration. :) If you had