Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:03:03 +0100, Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 17. November 2004 16:53 schrieb Barry Hawkins: >> I guess Ant can be added to the list of things that do not run >> without tools.jar[0]. >> >> [0] - http://bugs

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:53:11 -0500, Barry Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess Ant can be added to the list of things that do not run without > tools.jar[0]. > > [0] - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=169755 I think it's the on

Re: java-config

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:10:29 +0100, Karl Trygve Kalleberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We already have such a tool for Gentoo, written in Python. This is > what it can do currently: great. > I don't know there is a Debian policy stating that such too

Re: java-config (was Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK)

2004-11-17 Thread Karl Trygve Kalleberg
Joerg Wendland wrote: Barry Hawkins, on 2004-11-17, 09:29, you wrote: That's what I have been doing, I just don't know if that's how we want the Eclipse 3 package to work. Is that what other Java applications that need JAVA_HOME are doing? It seems a bit of a kludge, but that could be my inexp

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Michael Koch
Am Mittwoch, 17. November 2004 16:53 schrieb Barry Hawkins: > Shyamal Prasad wrote: > [...] > > | So would that mean that any Debian Java package that required > | tools.jar is not usable with a truly free Java at this time? Or > | is there a free tools.jar equivalent? > | > | I am specifically tal

java-config (was Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK)

2004-11-17 Thread Joerg Wendland
Barry Hawkins, on 2004-11-17, 09:29, you wrote: > That's what I have been doing, I just don't know if that's how we want > the Eclipse 3 package to work. Is that what other Java applications > that need JAVA_HOME are doing? It seems a bit of a kludge, but that > could be my inexperience with Debi

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | So would that mean that any Debian Java package that required | tools.jar is not usable with a truly free Java at this time? Or is | there a free tools.jar equivalent? | | I am specifically talking about bsh (BeanShell) - I

Re: What's the plan for Eclipse 3?

2004-11-17 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote: [...] | (When I say extension, I mean feature or plugin). | | It is indeed the case that Eclipse requires auxiliary extension locations to | have the directory laying random/path/prefix/eclipse/{plugins,features}. | | Howeve

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Michael Koch
Am Mittwoch, 17. November 2004 15:23 schrieb Barry Hawkins: > Michael Koch wrote: > | Am Mittwoch, 17. November 2004 04:07 schrieb Barry Hawkins: > |>Shyamal Prasad wrote: > |>| "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > |>| >> Perhaps even lib/tools.jar, or is that a Sun thin

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-17 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Upayavira wrote: | Barry Hawkins wrote: [...] |> Many thanks for the reply and the links; I will read those. I can see |> where the policy is going, I just wonder how practical it is. If I am |> not mistaken, the Eclipse executable also depends upon J

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Koch wrote: | Am Mittwoch, 17. November 2004 04:07 schrieb Barry Hawkins: | |>Shyamal Prasad wrote: |>| "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |>| >> Perhaps even lib/tools.jar, or is that a Sun thing only? [...] |>tools.

Re: Total beginner in java

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:57:39 -0800, Andrea Giusto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hi Andrea, (first, this mail is not in relation with the actual thread, so please next time, write a new mail but don't reply to a mail if it's not the same thread) > I am no expert at all in java, but I have som

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:30:48 -0800, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Perhaps even lib/tools.jar, or is that a Sun thing only? > > Arnaud> Yes it is. > > So would that

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:13:22 -0800, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will do. But I'm just trying to see how to get JDE to work when > JAVA_HOME is not set ;-) If you can, please, post. I really like JDE but I can't use completion with bean

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-17 Thread Upayavira
Barry Hawkins wrote: Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | Debian executables "must not depend on environment variables to get | reasonable defaults" is the actual statement. [...] | You can't require that a user sets JAVA_HOME for a default | installation of a java application to run in a reasonable | man

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-17 Thread Michael Koch
Am Mittwoch, 17. November 2004 04:07 schrieb Barry Hawkins: > Shyamal Prasad wrote: > | "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | >> Perhaps even lib/tools.jar, or is that a Sun thing only? > | > | Arnaud> Yes it is. > | > | So would that mean that any Debian Java packa