Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | Debian executables "must not depend on environment variables to get | reasonable defaults" is the actual statement. [...] | You can't require that a user sets JAVA_HOME for a default | installation of a java application to

Re: tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-16 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyamal Prasad wrote: | "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | >> Perhaps even lib/tools.jar, or is that a Sun thing only? | | Arnaud> Yes it is. | | So would that mean that any Debian Java package that required | tools.j

tools.jar and free Java code

2004-11-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Perhaps even lib/tools.jar, or is that a Sun thing only? Arnaud> Yes it is. So would that mean that any Debian Java package that required tools.jar is not usable with a truly free Java at this time? Or is there a free tools.

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Barry> Shyamal Prasad wrote: >| I just noticed that both JDE versions in Debian (jde and >| xemacs21-basesupport) are partially broken: if you don't set >| JAVA_HOME (which is not allowed by Debian policy) some of the >| most useful tools don't work. Barry> This is news t

Re: No jre/bin in free-java-sdk package

2004-11-16 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: [...] | Did you actually hit a program that requires these tools in jre/bin and | does not work with free-java-sdk otherwise, or you just noticed that | these tools were "missing"? | | This way or another please file a bugre

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | I just noticed that both JDE versions in Debian (jde and | xemacs21-basesupport) are partially broken: if you don't set JAVA_HOME | (which is not allowed by Debian policy) some of the most useful tools | don't work. [...] T

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arnaud> Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:42:49 -0800, Shyamal Prasad Arnaud> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I do not do any Java development anymore, and I've only ever >> used Blackdown on Debian, so any input would help. Arnaud>

Total beginner in java

2004-11-16 Thread Andrea Giusto
Hi, I am no expert at all in java, but I have some knowledge about c++ and programming in general. Since I like to have everything fine on my computer ;> I would like to be able to use java applets and programs...How do I start it? is there any good comprehensive source of info in the internet

Re: No jre/bin in free-java-sdk package

2004-11-16 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
Hi Barry, On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 15:43, Barry Hawkins wrote: > Grzegorz & others, > In using the free-java-sdk package, I notice that the scripts in > /usr/lib/fjsdk/bin are assigned to the free Java alternative components > as follows: > > gjdoc -> /usr/bin/gjdoc > jar-> /usr/bin/fas

Re: What's the plan for Eclipse 3?

2004-11-16 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:51:59 +0100, Karl Trygve Kalleberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS. I'm the maintainer of Eclipse on Gentoo. What is Gentoo? OK, jokin' ;-) Many thanks for your help and time, Karl. I'd like we could work together! I also woul

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:42:49 -0800, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a system that is installed according to the Debian policy > documents (including Java policy). On this system I am trying to find > the "base Java directory"

Re: What's the plan for Eclipse 3?

2004-11-16 Thread Karl Trygve Kalleberg
On Friday 12 November 2004 06:14, Barry Hawkins wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > ~I am pretty sure that Eclipse 3.x still relies on the > eclipse/{plugins/features}/ layout, if I understand your meaning. Can > you expound on the problems this presents in your view,

Re: Setting Class-Path in manifest file

2004-11-16 Thread Omry Yadan
Chuck Williams wrote: I was hoping that someone would know the answer to this question. I’ve got my Class-Path attribute in the manifest.mf file properly set but I’m still getting ClassNotFound exceptions. I’ve got all the jar files that the Class-Path references stored inside my jar file in the

Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Hi, I have a system that is installed according to the Debian policy documents (including Java policy). On this system I am trying to find the "base Java directory" for the default Java environment. Is it correct for me to chase symlinks from /usr/bin/java until I find the actual executable, and