Re: How complex is a natively built eclipse install?

2004-03-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 10 March 2004 20:44, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > How complex is the manual install for debian now? >> >> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual >> >> And maybe clean up the mail

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Cedric Berger
Momchil Velikov wrote: How about asking Sun to support CNI then ? Because it's they who limit your "freedoom of choice", by supporting only one (the technically inferior, AIUI) interface. Bleah They technically cannot support it. CNI doesn't work with precise copying collectors, AFAIK. Cedric

Re: How complex is a natively built eclipse install? [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-12 Thread Caoilte O'Connor
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 20:44, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How complex is the manual install for debian now? > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual > > And maybe clean up the mail you respond to ;-) Maybe I should clean up my respons

RE: [java-gnome-hackers] CNI vs JNI

2004-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Morgan
First of all let me thank everybody for their input on this topic. We should get together more often and talk like this 8-) Let me start this email by clarifying the goals of the java-gnome project. Our projects directive is to provide a language binding for the GNOME desktop environment. I, fo

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: [Sablevm-developer] Re: [kaffe] Ja va-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Morgan
> Mark, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > On Thursday 11 March 2004 18:44, Mark Howard wrote: > > > The big question is: should we switch to CNI? > > > > No. > > I agree with Chris 100%. [Or perhaps I should say 110% :-)] > > JNI is the standard for portably calling C / C++ from Java. It works >

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Elias" == Elias Martenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Elias> fre 2004-03-12 klockan 03.07 skrev Tom Tromey: >> Second, for me at least, the primary consideration isn't the features, >> the performance, or any facet of the implementation (including even >> AOT compilation if it comes to tha

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Elias Martenson
fre 2004-03-12 klockan 03.07 skrev Tom Tromey: > > "Elias" == Elias Martenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Elias> Going CNI-only would severely limit the number of 3'rd > Elias> party component you'd be able to integrate. > > You can mix and match CNI and JNI in a single process. This ha

Re: [kaffe] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Chris Gray
On Friday 12 March 2004 01:23, Per Bothner wrote: > Chris Gray wrote: > > On Thursday 11 March 2004 18:44, Mark Howard wrote: > >>The big question is: should we switch to CNI? > > > > No. > > Though I'm obviously in the CNI "camp", I tend to agree. > > But I think the folloup-question is: should ja