Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Bonniot
I still think that ant should stop depending on jython and antlr, since that's a policy violation (depends on non-necessary packages) and brings I agree with the first part, but not the second (i.e. IMHO it's not a Policy violation). But the latest Ant package (uploaded yesterday) does not d

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Well, we got ant, ant1.5 and ant1.6 and maybe the plugins could exist for the three different ant... What is the rationale for /usr/share/ant1.X/lib ? Is it designed for plugins that would only work with a certain version of ant? what happens if you don't have ant1.6 but already have a lot of p

Re: When is a package ready to go into main?

2004-03-10 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Daniel, * Daniel Bonniot wrote: >As others have stated, eclipse handles pretty sensitive data (sources), >so being >conservative is appropriate. I also agree with this opinion, so eclipse will stay out of main for the next time. Anybody willing to do a PPC upload? I have a bugreport, whi

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: Maybe we should discuss on that. Maybe it's good but I think we should have a common way of doing it. No need to discuss this. :-) Just do it like the other packages do it already: Put your JAR with Ant tasks (or a symlink to the JAR) in /usr/share/ant/lib. I still think t

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Salut Arnaud, Bien le bonjour ;-) >>>What I do (in the package 'nice') is to setup a symlink from >>>/usr/share/ant/lib/nice.jar to the jar containing the actual plugin. >> Maybe we should discuss on that

Re: When is a package ready to go into main?

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Since the 1.1.4 release of kaffe, eclipse runs reasonable well with kaffe. Good news! Reasonable well means, that I successfully did some java coding with it. I couldn't call it very good, since the second editor (XML plugin) I tryed to open crashed the whole thing. So what is the treeshold (sp?)

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Salut Arnaud, What I do (in the package 'nice') is to setup a symlink from /usr/share/ant/lib/nice.jar to the jar containing the actual plugin. Maybe we should discuss on that. Maybe it's good but I think we should have a common way of doing it. Agreed. Maybe a shell script update-antlib or som

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Philipp, (please, respect the mail-followup-to field ;-) even if doogie and dalibor don't, they are some kind of rebel! ;-) Philipp Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Arnaud Vandyck schrieb: >> Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>These

Re: java in main

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Adam Heath wrote: > components/content/lib/velocity-dep-1.3.jar This is part of a subproject of velocity, velocity-tools. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Is there a standard Debian way to add ant plugins libraries? > > I don't think this is documented anywhere. > > What I do (in the package 'nice') is to setup a symlink from > /usr/share/ant/lib/nice.jar to

Re: When is a package ready to go into main?

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Since the 1.1.4 release of kaffe, eclipse runs reasonable well with >> kaffe. Reasonable well means, that I successfully did some java coding >> with it. I couldn't

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> If the things continue at this pace, we may consider doing kaffe-cvs >> releases more regularly for interested people to play with. > > I for one would love that.

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 10 Mar 2004 16:04, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> > components/service/lib/jaxrpc.jar >> >> I think I already see this somewhere ;-)... (but where?) > > Isnt this a library from j2ee? Done! http://java

Re: java in main for jboss/ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I packaged an old version of jboss (3.0.2 or something)[1] and had > intentions of doing 3.1+. I found it quite a bit of work to do the > packaging alone and deal with all the dependencies embedded within th

How complex is a Debian install? [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How complex is the manual install for debian now? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual > I looked at the Redhat pages a while back but there were > just too many steps involved even befo

Re: When is a package ready to go into main?

2004-03-10 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since the 1.1.4 release of kaffe, eclipse runs reasonable well with > kaffe. Reasonable well means, that I successfully did some java coding > with it. I couldn't call it very good, since the second editor (XML > plugin) I tryed to open crashed the whole thi

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the things continue at this pace, we may consider doing kaffe-cvs > releases more regularly for interested people to play with. I for one would love that. -- * Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology (T.P) * * PGP

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Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > >> Would be cool to have JBoss in Debian ;-) > > > > Don't you mean ofbiz(altho, jboss would be nice too, but jboss > > upstream isn't friendly). > > >From the

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > >> Would be cool to have JBoss in Debian ;-) > > Don't you mean ofbiz(altho, jboss would be nice too, but jboss > upstream isn't friendly). >From the website, it seems jboss is used by ofbiz! ;-)... But I don't

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
elijah wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Would be cool to have JBoss in Debian ;-) >> >> As soon as Kaffe runs JBoss (even rudimentally) I will package JBoss >> for Debian, unless somebody else beats me to it (I don't see a need >> to package it before that as the installation to /usr/local

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Arnaud, * Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >Would be cool to have JBoss in Debian ;-) NTW: JPackage has packaged JBoss, so why not have a look there :) Its kind of fun, as well, as it is interesting, what kind of features other packages have. So far I've found 4 different eclipse packages: JPackage, g

Re: java in main

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
I've reduced the list, to those that implement java extensions. jdbc2_0-stdext and jta appear to be in kaffe in some form or another. > components/minerva/lib/jdbc2_0-stdext.jar javax.sql.* > components/minerva/lib/jta_1.0.1.jar javax.transaction.* > components/minerva/lib/ots-jts_1.0.jar o

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Dalibor Topic wrote: > I don't know about the rest from the top of my head. I'm checking in > some RMI improvements now, and then we'll give JBoss a beating. The > developement in the last few days has been quite intensive wrt to > getting XScale, PowerPC-no-fpu, and MIPS to r

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Is there a standard Debian way to add ant plugins libraries? I don't think this is documented anywhere. What I do (in the package 'nice') is to setup a symlink from /usr/share/ant/lib/nice.jar to the jar containing the actual plugin. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Dalibor Topic
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: These are the jars I need to have packaged still. Slightly smaller list, as I found some replacements in debian already. Re-ordered: 1° Maybe already in Debian: components/content/lib/iText.jar libitext-java - Java Library to gener

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-10 Thread Caoilte O'Connor
How complex is the manual install for debian now? I looked at the Redhat pages a while back but there were just too many steps involved even before you try on a debian system. c On Tuesday 02 March 2004 22:44, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the report! > > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 16:5

Re: java in main for jboss/ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
On 10 Mar 2004, Joe Phillips wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 11:39, elijah wright wrote: > > > > i'm pretty sure someone already built jboss packages - i seem to have an > > apt-get source for them already, at least > > I packaged an old version of jboss (3.0.2 or something)[1] and had > intent

When is a package ready to go into main?

2004-03-10 Thread Jan Schulz
Hello, Since the 1.1.4 release of kaffe, eclipse runs reasonable well with kaffe. Reasonable well means, that I successfully did some java coding with it. I couldn't call it very good, since the second editor (XML plugin) I tryed to open crashed the whole thing. So what is the treeshold (sp?) to

Re: java in main for jboss/ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Joe Phillips
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 11:39, elijah wright wrote: > > i'm pretty sure someone already built jboss packages - i seem to have an > apt-get source for them already, at least I packaged an old version of jboss (3.0.2 or something)[1] and had intentions of doing 3.1+. I found it quite a bit of wo

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, elijah wright wrote: > > i'm pretty sure someone already built jboss packages - i seem to have an > apt-get source for them already, at least > > elijah That was me, but was based on 2.4. 3.0 changed completely around, and I never got around to it. Plus, we have stopped

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread elijah wright
i'm pretty sure someone already built jboss packages - i seem to have an apt-get source for them already, at least elijah > > Would be cool to have JBoss in Debian ;-) > > As soon as Kaffe runs JBoss (even rudimentally) I will package JBoss for > Debian, unless somebody else beats me to it

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > These are the jars I need to have packaged still. > > Slightly smaller list, as I found some replacements in debian already. > > Re-ordered: > > 1° Maybe already in Debian: > > > components/content/lib/iText.

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Tom Badran
On Wednesday 10 Mar 2004 16:04, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > components/service/lib/jaxrpc.jar > > I think I already see this somewhere ;-)... (but where?) Isnt this a library from j2ee? Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PRO

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would be cool to have JBoss in Debian ;-) As soon as Kaffe runs JBoss (even rudimentally) I will package JBoss for Debian, unless somebody else beats me to it (I don't see a need to package it before that as the installation to /usr/local or /var/jboss

Re: java in main for ofbiz

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These are the jars I need to have packaged still. > Slightly smaller list, as I found some replacements in debian already. Re-ordered: 1° Maybe already in Debian: > components/content/lib/iText.jar libitext-java - Java Library to generate PDF on the Fly

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar?

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These classes in ant-launcher.jar automatically include all JARs in > {ant.home}/lib which was previously done my my startup script. So I'm > now using upstream's startup scripts since this is not needed any

Re: What is the ant-launcher.jar? [was: Re: Accepted ant 1.6.1-1 (all source)]

2004-03-10 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: I do not follow the ant-dev mailing list, but I'd like to know what is the ant-launcher.jar? And what is the startup script? ant-launcher.jar contains classes to set up Ant's class path. It is now the preferred way to start Ant using org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher fro

Re: Has anyone looked at swingswt?

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This seems a really nice way to get an awt/swing implementation that > already works with gij, has anyone looked at implementing it in > debian and possibly getting a shed load more packages from > contrib->m

What is the ant-launcher.jar? [was: Re: Accepted ant 1.6.1-1 (all source)]

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 01:47:53 +0100 > Source: ant > Version: 1.6.1-1 [...] >* Use upstream's version of the Ant wrapper /usr/bin/ant which uses the > new ant-launcher.jar Hi Stefan, First of al