Re: Bug#228878: libtomcat4-java: should have a dependency on java-virtual-machine

2004-01-21 Thread Ben Burton
> >Actually, when I come to think of it since it's just a library, I don't > >see why libtomcat4-java should worry about whether java2-runtime or > >j2re1.4 is installed or not. > > That's actually exactly my opinion. But some people on the debian-java > mailing list have a different opinion.

Re: Status and futur of ArgoUML package(s)

2004-01-21 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 18, 2004, at 12:45, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Thanks for your help. ArgoUML project[1] does put this library in their CVS[2]. Do you think it's legal? I already did warn them[3], Was I wrong or right? There are provisions in there allowing redistribution under certain terms. It's a very long

Re: Bug#228878: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
josh buhl wrote: no they don't. some, like tomcat4, have an "or" type dependency on java-virtual-machine, so the dummy package takes care of this. the only two java packages giving me a headache right now are libtomcat4-java and libcommons-beanutils-java, both of which insist on installing jav

Re: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread josh buhl
Stefan Gybas wrote: You can use equivs for that. See README.Debian in java-common for details. very nice. i see that this does take care of the problem, but how are you going to get the user to know/do this, since when installing, all he sees is a error message reporting missing dependencies. th

Re: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread josh buhl
Stefan Gybas wrote: You can use equivs for that. See README.Debian in java-common for details. very nice. i see that this does take care of the problem, but how are you going to get the user to know/do this, since when installing, all he sees is a error message reporting missing dependencies. th

Re: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Josh, josh buhl wrote: well, this is always going to be a problem. i don't see how you can remove the dummy packages without causing headaches for everybody who wants to use Sun's j2sdk or j2re (or any other non debian jvm or whatever). you need a dummy package to tell other debian packages

java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread josh buhl
Stefan Gybas wrote: josh buhl wrote: Here's the deal: I have Sun's j2sdk1.4.2_01 installed. That pretty much takes care of all the java dependencies, but since it's not a debian package, none of the debian java stuff knows about it. I don't want to install any of the packages that provide java2

Re: Bug#228878: libtomcat4-java: should have a dependency on java-virtual-machine

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
josh buhl wrote: Here's the deal: I have Sun's j2sdk1.4.2_01 installed. That pretty much takes care of all the java dependencies, but since it's not a debian package, none of the debian java stuff knows about it. I don't want to install any of the packages that provide java2-runtime, since I've

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError problem with gcj-compiled running with Sun 1.4.2

2004-01-21 Thread E.L. Willighagen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm working on three java chemistry programs (cdk, jcpcdk and jmol, see mentors.debian.net APT archive), and I have cdk compiled with gcj 3.3.2 (from testing). When I run the cdk-view shell wrapper which does: /usr/bin/java -cp list-of-ja

Re: question about tomcat

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Michael Forster wrote: IIRC the problem is, that the links are regenerated when the package is updated. They are not regenerated if at least one link is not deleted (or an S link is replaced by a K link). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: question about tomcat

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Mariano GarcĂ­a wrote: I want to ask you if there is any way to get tomcat does not start automatically when linux starts. Yes, you can set TOMCAT4_USER to an empty string in /etc/default/tomcat4. However, you won't be able to manually run /etc/init.d/tomcat4 in this case either. There has been

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I fully agree with you! The only useful things in the > current Java Policy are /usr/share/java for JARs, /usr/lib/jni > and the naming of library packages. Everything else is based > on wrong assumtions. :-( I also agree. -- .''`. :

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I think we MUST do is aim to have a end user application, that > runs on Java, work as expected. To this end, I see java2-runtime being > provided by runtimes that conform to Sun's published standards, and no > others. However we verify that i

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-21 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Stefan Gybas wrote: Daniel Bonniot wrote: One solution to this (which I found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10605.html) would be to temporily make new (empty) versions of the jikes-* packages with priority extra, and that only depend on the new jikes-with-* packages. T

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Jerry, Jerry Haltom wrote: What I think we MUST do is aim to have a end user application, that runs on Java, work as expected. To this end, I see java2-runtime being provided by runtimes that conform to Sun's published standards, and no others. However we verify that is up in the air. Addition

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: One solution to this (which I found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10605.html) would be to temporily make new (empty) versions of the jikes-* packages with priority extra, and that only depend on the new jikes-with-* packages. This would require a new