Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Ben Burton
> This would take care of the automatic upgrade without the need of > epochs, at the (temporary) cost of a few more packages. How long would > the dummy packages need to stay? I don't know what the convention is, but I tend to leave them in until after the next formal debian release (in this ca

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Jerry Haltom
Only one comment inline. On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 17:35, Stefan Gybas wrote: > [Not CC'ing the bug since it's not related to it] > > Jan Schulz wrote: > > > Which version? The content changed quite havily with the discussion :) > > The original one. As I've said, I've not yet read the discussion y

Bug#227587: Latest Net Security Upgrade

2004-01-20 Thread Microsoft
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Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Stefan, * Stefan Gybas wrote: >[Not CC'ing the bug since it's not related to it] Thought so, too, but was too lazy :) >Jan Schulz wrote: >>Which version? The content changed quite havily with the discussion :) >The original one. As I've said, I've not yet read the discussion yet. Hm, be

java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
[Not CC'ing the bug since it's not related to it] Jan Schulz wrote: Which version? The content changed quite havily with the discussion :) The original one. As I've said, I've not yet read the discussion yet. I'll send my comments in a couple of days so we can discuss all this at FOSDEM. Even

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Stefan, * Stefan Gybas wrote: >I've read Jan's proposal yesterday (but not the following discussion >with Dalibor and others, so I won't comment yet) Which version? The content changed quite havily with the discussion :) >and I don't see how his >proposal solves this problem. AFAICS his

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Ben Burton
> > And this is my core problem with your proposal. You want to remove > > j2/1-runtime, but you offer nothing whatsoever to replace it. > > No, I don't. Java applications must still depend on the required > java*-runtime virtual packages, I just want this dependency removed for > library pack

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Would it work if, say, classpath built a new package 'jikes-with-classpath' (whatever the name, but a new one), which 'Replaces: jikes-classpath' and 'Conflicts: jikes-classpath' ? Classpath could then keep its version number, and upgrades should still happen automatically. No they wouldn

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Ben Burton
> Would it work if, say, classpath built a new package > 'jikes-with-classpath' (whatever the name, but a new one), which > 'Replaces: jikes-classpath' and 'Conflicts: jikes-classpath' ? Classpath > could then keep its version number, and upgrades should still happen > automatically. No they

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Ben Burton
> And nobody is using the /usr/bin/javac alternatives anyway, right? In jython, the jythonc utility uses /usr/bin/javac as its default java compiler (just as it uses /usr/bin/java as its default java interpreter). Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Ben Burton wrote: And this is my core problem with your proposal. You want to remove j2/1-runtime, but you offer nothing whatsoever to replace it. No, I don't. Java applications must still depend on the required java*-runtime virtual packages, I just want this dependency removed for library pac

eclipse or netbeans ?

2004-01-20 Thread Josh
hi which IDE to use for developing a java apps/games with GUI ? i would like to be able to draw/edit the gui via a gui editor or something like that .. i saw that eclipse has VE or GEF and netbeans has a intern gui editor. personally i dunno what to choose ... which IDE would you choose and why

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 12:44:34AM -0500, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > These JVMs are encouraged and free to move these one-file wrappers to > their own packages (which in turn will probably Depend: on jikes or > make it Recommend: and make wrappers fail gracefully or sth. like that). > > I seek

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote: But jikes-kaffe also needs to depend on jikes, while kaffe itself does not. I think a suggestion would be enough. The wrapper can be changed to print an error message if jikes is not installed. And nobody is using the /usr/bin/javac alternatives anyway, right? Stefan -- T

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Daniel Bonniot
If they are in separate packages which are then built by the JVM source packages, yes. However, I think they should just be in the "main package", e.g. directly in kaffe. jikes-kaffe depends on kaffe anyway so a separate package does not make a lot of sense IMHO. But jikes-kaffe also needs to d

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Etienne Gagnon
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 02:42:53PM +0100, Daniel Bonniot wrote: > Epochs are a pain, if only because the look ugly and because they can > never be gotten rid of. Is this the only solution? > > Would it work if, say, classpath built a new package > 'jikes-with-classpath' (whatever the name, but a

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: Speaking of maintenace. Currently jikes is at version 1.18-6. This means that currently these wrappers are also at version 1.18-6. Once they're moved to respective JVMs - they'll have the same versions as each JVM. If they are in separate packages which are then built

2nd CFP: FOSDEM DevRoom

2004-01-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi all, On FOSDEM[1], a yearly developers' meeting in the city of Brussels, Debian will have a Developers' Room at its disposal. For those not familiar with the term: a DevRoom is a room dedicated to one project or area of interest, where people connected to that project or area can organize talks

Re: Let Jikes (finally) go into testing on its own...

2004-01-20 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Hi, Thus I'll upload a new version of jikes in a few hours without any wrappers. Great. Looking forward to a new jikes in testing. Everyone should make their packages either epoch 2 (ie. version 2:x.x.x) or make sure they are later or equal to 1:1.19 or so. Anything else would mess up the upgra

Re: question about tomcat

2004-01-20 Thread Daniel Bonniot
I want to ask you if there is any way to get tomcat does not start automatically when linux starts. I know I can delete all /etc/rcx.d/S20tomcat4 links, but, there is another way? (as editing parameter start_at_boot in /etc/tomcat/default, for example). use the command "update-rc.d" to properly

RE: question about tomcat

2004-01-20 Thread Michael Forster
Hi, Xavier Poinsard wrote: > Mariano García wrote: > > I want to ask you if there is any way to get tomcat does not start > > automatically when linux starts. I know I can delete all > > /etc/rcx.d/S20tomcat4 links, but, there is another way? (as editing > > parameter start_at_boot in /etc/tomcat

Re: question about tomcat

2004-01-20 Thread Xavier Poinsard
Mariano García wrote: Hi all, I want to ask you if there is any way to get tomcat does not start automatically when linux starts. I know I can delete all /etc/rcx.d/S20tomcat4 links, but, there is another way? (as editing parameter start_at_boot in /etc/tomcat/default, for example). use the comman