Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Ben Burton
> Anyway, this gcj isn't in debian yet. Hmm? apt-cache show gcj Or are you talking about a different version of gcj? Or am I misunderstanding your comment completely? Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Ben Burton
> Anyway, this gcj isn't in debian yet. Hmm? apt-cache show gcj Or are you talking about a different version of gcj? Or am I misunderstanding your comment completely? Ben.

http_proxy environment variable

2003-08-31 Thread Mark Howard
Hi, I've recently needed to use a http proxy with java.net methods. To set this, the options -Dhttp.proxyHost=wwwcache.bris.ac.uk -Dhttp.proxyPort=8080 have to be set on the java command. j2se1.4 did not recognise http_proxy environment variables, even though they are set. I've not yet tried w

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Then at least the unfree should be made working with our packaging. > >I can't tell people what to do with their time, though I'd prefer to > >see people helping to make free as in speech java implementations > >rock, instead of making it

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, * Dalibor Topic wrote: >> * interface to unfree VMs (wqhich should be ~100% sun compatible >And this means providing some java & javac wrapper scripts, setting CLASSPATH >etc, right? For the unfre: no. AFAIK, every unfree VM is comandline compatible to the sun one (aehm, yes, apart

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, * Dalibor Topic wrote: >> All in all, I think we first need a better working policy, before we >> could start thinking about such a project. >Fair enough. I think that such a project is crucial to making free java >software work well in debian. Thats why I did propose this here :)

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo Dalibor, > > * Dalibor Topic wrote: > >> * makes all our packages working with every JVM, which will run it: > >> . free ones > >> . unfree ones by a well defined API and a installer script > >that's a great goal. it needs people w

[VAC] until september 9

2003-08-31 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Hi all, I'll be on holliday until september 9. I'll unsubscribe this list and re-subscribe when I'll be back. Best regards, -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** : :' : Arnaud Vandyck `. `' http://alioth.debian.org/users/arnaud-guest/ `-http://alioth.debian.org/developer/diary.p

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Ben, --- Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a note: > > > People will always complain, as long as the free java implementations > > are not equivalent to sun's on all accounts. Frankly, as long as they > > don't want to put the little extra effort, and work with us to fix the > >

Sponsor for the Nice compiler (Java extension)

2003-08-31 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Hi, I am the main upstream author of the Nice language, which is an extension of Java with many advanced features. It is released under the GPL. Homepage: http://nice.sourceforge.net A few month ago, I already asked for a sponsor (http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/debian-mentors-2003

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo Dalibor, > > Just a short reply. I'm running out of time... :) And BTW: no need to > CC me. I hope I have set the required headers... Sorry about the CC:, I use to hit the reply all button automatically ;) > * Dalibor Topic wrote: >

Re: [VAC] until september 9

2003-08-31 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:20:37 +0200 (CEST) Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'll be on holliday until september 9. > > I'll unsubscribe this list and re-subscribe when I'll be back. Oups! Sorry, I'll NOT unsubscribe! :) -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** : :' : Arn

http_proxy environment variable

2003-08-31 Thread Mark Howard
Hi, I've recently needed to use a http proxy with java.net methods. To set this, the options -Dhttp.proxyHost=wwwcache.bris.ac.uk -Dhttp.proxyPort=8080 have to be set on the java command. j2se1.4 did not recognise http_proxy environment variables, even though they are set. I've not yet tried w

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, * Dalibor Topic wrote: >> * interface to unfree VMs (wqhich should be ~100% sun compatible >And this means providing some java & javac wrapper scripts, setting CLASSPATH >etc, right? For the unfre: no. AFAIK, every unfree VM is comandline compatible to the sun one (aehm, yes, apart

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Dalibor, * Dalibor Topic wrote: >> All in all, I think we first need a better working policy, before we >> could start thinking about such a project. >Fair enough. I think that such a project is crucial to making free java >software work well in debian. Thats why I did propose this here :)

Sponsor for the Nice compiler (Java extension)

2003-08-31 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Hi, I am the main upstream author of the Nice language, which is an extension of Java with many advanced features. It is released under the GPL. Homepage: http://nice.sourceforge.net A few month ago, I already asked for a sponsor (http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/debian-mentors-20030

Re: [VAC] until september 9

2003-08-31 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:20:37 +0200 (CEST) Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'll be on holliday until september 9. > > I'll unsubscribe this list and re-subscribe when I'll be back. Oups! Sorry, I'll NOT unsubscribe! :) -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** : :' : Arn

[VAC] until september 9

2003-08-31 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Hi all, I'll be on holliday until september 9. I'll unsubscribe this list and re-subscribe when I'll be back. Best regards, -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** : :' : Arnaud Vandyck `. `' http://alioth.debian.org/users/arnaud-guest/ `-http://alioth.debian.org/developer/diary.p

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo Dalibor, > > * Dalibor Topic wrote: > >> * makes all our packages working with every JVM, which will run it: > >> . free ones > >> . unfree ones by a well defined API and a installer script > >that's a great goal. it needs people w

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo Dalibor, > > Just a short reply. I'm running out of time... :) And BTW: no need to > CC me. I hope I have set the required headers... Sorry about the CC:, I use to hit the reply all button automatically ;) > * Dalibor Topic wrote: >

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Ben, --- Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a note: > > > People will always complain, as long as the free java implementations > > are not equivalent to sun's on all accounts. Frankly, as long as they > > don't want to put the little extra effort, and work with us to fix the > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath

2003-08-31 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hallo Jan, --- Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Then at least the unfree should be made working with our packaging. > >I can't tell people what to do with their time, though I'd prefer to > >see people helping to make free as in speech java implementations > >rock, instead of making it