JAXP in debian [was Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant]

2003-08-15 Thread Xavier Renard
Hi all On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:39:17 +0200 Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: libxalan2-java depends on libxerces2-java but you do not need xml-apis.jar AND xmlParserAPIs.jar in your classpath. It's up to the maintainer of the application to know what to do. This will anyway have to

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:38:42 +0200 Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would think that java2 is a superset of java1. > > > > Unfortunately, this is not the case; the deprecation of methods and > > classes make java2 an intersecting set, not a superset of java1. > > Deprecated feat

Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:39:17 +0200 Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Usually you need to know what version of what lib you need. If that > version is packages, you add this package name to your Depends: > dh_java (or yourself, if thats not oncluded in such a script) will > then add t

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Bonniot
I would think that java2 is a superset of java1. Unfortunately, this is not the case; the deprecation of methods and classes make java2 an intersecting set, not a superset of java1. Deprecated features are still available. There are still tagged, so that their use is discouraged, since they

JAXP in debian [was Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant]

2003-08-15 Thread Xavier Renard
Hi all On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:39:17 +0200 Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: libxalan2-java depends on libxerces2-java but you do not need xml-apis.jar AND xmlParserAPIs.jar in your classpath. It's up to the maintainer of the application to know what to do. This will anyway have to

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 15 Aug 2003 14:44:02 -0500 Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well > enough. Very good news! :-D > Sorry again for my absentee behavior. You're welcome ;) -- Arnaud Vandyck, STE fi, ULg Formateur Cellule Programma

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:38:42 +0200 Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would think that java2 is a superset of java1. > > > > Unfortunately, this is not the case; the deprecation of methods and > > classes make java2 an intersecting set, not a superset of java1. > > Deprecated feat

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi Ean, My apologies. We installed a new mail server and I was in a car wreck shortly after so some configuration issues went unattended. I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well enough. I need to verify that I can stop using pthreads. Under 1.0.7 I could not get ant to

Re: [PROPOSAL] dh_ant

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:39:17 +0200 Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Usually you need to know what version of what lib you need. If that > version is packages, you add this package name to your Depends: > dh_java (or yourself, if thats not oncluded in such a script) will > then add t

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Ean Schuessler
My apologies. We installed a new mail server and I was in a car wreck shortly after so some configuration issues went unattended. I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well enough. I need to verify that I can stop using pthreads. Under 1.0.7 I could not get ant to spawn ex

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Bonniot
I would think that java2 is a superset of java1. Unfortunately, this is not the case; the deprecation of methods and classes make java2 an intersecting set, not a superset of java1. Deprecated features are still available. There are still tagged, so that their use is discouraged, since they

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 15 Aug 2003 14:44:02 -0500 Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well > enough. Very good news! :-D > Sorry again for my absentee behavior. You're welcome ;) -- Arnaud Vandyck, STE fi, ULg Formateur Cellule Programma

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hi Ean, My apologies. We installed a new mail server and I was in a car wreck shortly after so some configuration issues went unattended. I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well enough. I need to verify that I can stop using pthreads. Under 1.0.7 I could not get ant to

Re: kaffe-1.1.1 package available for tests

2003-08-15 Thread Ean Schuessler
My apologies. We installed a new mail server and I was in a car wreck shortly after so some configuration issues went unattended. I have built packages for 1.1.1 for Intel and they seem to work well enough. I need to verify that I can stop using pthreads. Under 1.0.7 I could not get ant to spawn ex

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread T. Alexander Popiel
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I would think that java2 is a superset of java1. Unfortunately, this is not the case; the deprecation of methods and classes make java2 an intersecting set, not a superset of java1. >I propose the following

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:46:03AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 04:35:00PM +0200, Philipp Meier wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:13:42AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > This sounds useful. I think it could be simplified to use comm(1) rather > > > than parsing

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 04:35:00PM +0200, Philipp Meier wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:13:42AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This sounds useful. I think it could be simplified to use comm(1) rather > > than parsing a unified diff, though. > > grep -f is more useful. See attached script.

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:13:42AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:56:50PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > > > I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've > > used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that > > the build pro

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread T. Alexander Popiel
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I would think that java2 is a superset of java1. Unfortunately, this is not the case; the deprecation of methods and classes make java2 an intersecting set, not a superset of java1. >I propose the following

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:56:50PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've > used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that > the build process worked fine, for example when using CDBS or Ant and > Kaffe from mai

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:46:03AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 04:35:00PM +0200, Philipp Meier wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:13:42AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > This sounds useful. I think it could be simplified to use comm(1) rather > > > than parsing

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 04:35:00PM +0200, Philipp Meier wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:13:42AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This sounds useful. I think it could be simplified to use comm(1) rather > > than parsing a unified diff, though. > > grep -f is more useful. See attached script.

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:56:50 +0200 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've > used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that > the build process worked fine, for example when using CDBS or Ant and > K

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 10:13:42AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:56:50PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > > > I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've > > used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that > > the build pro

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:56:50PM +0200, Stefan Gybas wrote: > I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've > used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that > the build process worked fine, for example when using CDBS or Ant and > Kaffe from mai

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Bonniot
In which case fixing dpkg strikes me as far better than adding yet more byzantine workarounds. I'm all for somebody working on improving dpkg. At the same time, I know this is a limitation that has been known for a long time, so it might not be easy to fix, and will probably need some more time.

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:34, Stefan Gybas wrote: > David Goodenough wrote: > > Surely this says that having explicit runtime-? virtual packages is the > > wrong way to go. What is needed is that the virtual package has a > > version and then it can be compared in the normal way. > > Yes, but un

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
David Goodenough wrote: Surely this says that having explicit runtime-? virtual packages is the wrong way to go. What is needed is that the virtual package has a version and then it can be compared in the normal way. Yes, but unfortunately dpkg does not support versioned Provides: (see #112131),

Re: Script to compare the contents of two JARs

2003-08-15 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:56:50 +0200 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've written a little script to compare the contents of two JARs. I've > used it compare Debian packages with upstream binaries so I know that > the build process worked fine, for example when using CDBS or Ant and > K

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:02, Philipp Meier wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Daniel Bonniot wrote: > > I propose the following changes in the policy, instead of the above > > paragraphs: > > > > Programs /must/ depend on /java-virtual-machine/ and the needed runtime > > environm

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Daniel Bonniot wrote: > I propose the following changes in the policy, instead of the above > paragraphs: > > Programs /must/ depend on /java-virtual-machine/ and the needed runtime > environment (/java1-runtime/ or /java2-runtime/). > > [JVMs] can als

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Bonniot
In which case fixing dpkg strikes me as far better than adding yet more byzantine workarounds. I'm all for somebody working on improving dpkg. At the same time, I know this is a limitation that has been known for a long time, so it might not be easy to fix, and will probably need some more time.

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:34, Stefan Gybas wrote: > David Goodenough wrote: > > Surely this says that having explicit runtime-? virtual packages is the > > wrong way to go. What is needed is that the virtual package has a > > version and then it can be compared in the normal way. > > Yes, but un

Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Hi, I was reported that my package, which "Depends: java-virtual-machine, java1-runtime", could not be installed of a user's machine, who has blackdown's j2sdk1.4 and j2re1.4 installed. j2re1.4 "Provides: java-virtual-machine, java2-runtime". Something seems to be wrong, since the package should

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Stefan Gybas
David Goodenough wrote: Surely this says that having explicit runtime-? virtual packages is the wrong way to go. What is needed is that the virtual package has a version and then it can be compared in the normal way. Yes, but unfortunately dpkg does not support versioned Provides: (see #112131),

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread David Goodenough
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:02, Philipp Meier wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Daniel Bonniot wrote: > > I propose the following changes in the policy, instead of the above > > paragraphs: > > > > Programs /must/ depend on /java-virtual-machine/ and the needed runtime > > environm

Re: Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Philipp Meier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Daniel Bonniot wrote: > I propose the following changes in the policy, instead of the above > paragraphs: > > Programs /must/ depend on /java-virtual-machine/ and the needed runtime > environment (/java1-runtime/ or /java2-runtime/). > > [JVMs] can als

Policy: java1-runtime

2003-08-15 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Hi, I was reported that my package, which "Depends: java-virtual-machine, java1-runtime", could not be installed of a user's machine, who has blackdown's j2sdk1.4 and j2re1.4 installed. j2re1.4 "Provides: java-virtual-machine, java2-runtime". Something seems to be wrong, since the package shoul