Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: [...] > > For the alternatives of javac (example): > > > > SelectionAlternative > > --- > > ... > > *+7/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/ja

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Tuschik
Hi, On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > Maybe I did not understand the question (this is not the firt nor the > last time ;-) ), but IMHO, the question was two packages from on source > (jdk) or a jdk (from jdk with jre) and a jre (from the 'original jre >

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, ok. So packaging two packages for J2SDK and J2RE is the best way > (IMHO). Installing multiple SDK/JRE should be allowed. Especially for > developers this is a must-have. Maybe I did not understand the question (this is not the firt nor the la

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Debian[1]. I think it's in the java faq. And another point is that > >the license does not allow someone who use one of the tools from the > >jdk to use a replacement tool!.. I think I am outlaw ;-) > > > Are you refering to: > 5.3.1.4 Can I use jd

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Debian[1]. I think it's in the java faq. And another point is that the license does not allow someone who use one of the tools from the jdk to use a replacement tool!.. I think I am outlaw ;-) Are you refering to: 5.3.1.4 Can I use jdk1.2 while working with the free Java implementations? If i

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Tuschik
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:53:59AM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Hubert Schmid wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The only possibility seems to create one package from the J2RE and one > > > package from the

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Hubert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hi, > I have read the license agreements of the Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard > Edition 1.4.1_03 and Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition > 1.4.1_03. Most parts of the agreements are about distribution. There > is only one problem. The f

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Hubert Schmid wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The only possibility seems to create one package from the J2RE and one > > package from the J2SDK and make them conflict on each other (because the > > J2SDK also

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license (was: uploading mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Tuschik
Hi, On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Hubert Schmid wrote: > Hi, > > The only possibility seems to create one package from the J2RE and one > package from the J2SDK and make them conflict on each other (because the > J2SDK also contains an J2RE). > > Any other suggestions? Or should I i

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: [...] > > For the alternatives of javac (example): > > > > SelectionAlternative > > --- > > ... > > *+7/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/ja

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Tuschik
Hi, On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > Maybe I did not understand the question (this is not the firt nor the > last time ;-) ), but IMHO, the question was two packages from on source > (jdk) or a jdk (from jdk with jre) and a jre (from the 'original jre >

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, ok. So packaging two packages for J2SDK and J2RE is the best way > (IMHO). Installing multiple SDK/JRE should be allowed. Especially for > developers this is a must-have. Maybe I did not understand the question (this is not the firt nor the la

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Debian[1]. I think it's in the java faq. And another point is that > >the license does not allow someone who use one of the tools from the > >jdk to use a replacement tool!.. I think I am outlaw ;-) > > > Are you refering to: > 5.3.1.4 Can I use jd

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Debian[1]. I think it's in the java faq. And another point is that the license does not allow someone who use one of the tools from the jdk to use a replacement tool!.. I think I am outlaw ;-) Are you refering to: 5.3.1.4 Can I use jdk1.2 while working with the free Java implementations? If it

mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license (was: uploading mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-06-04 Thread Hubert Schmid
Hi, I have read the license agreements of the Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition 1.4.1_03 and Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition 1.4.1_03. Most parts of the agreements are about distribution. There is only one problem. The first paragraph of the supplemental license terms says: [..]

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Tuschik
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:53:59AM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Hubert Schmid wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The only possibility seems to create one package from the J2RE and one > > > package from the

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Hubert Schmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hi, > I have read the license agreements of the Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard > Edition 1.4.1_03 and Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition > 1.4.1_03. Most parts of the agreements are about distribution. There > is only one problem. The f

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license

2003-06-04 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Michael Tuschik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Hubert Schmid wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The only possibility seems to create one package from the J2RE and one > > package from the J2SDK and make them conflict on each other (because the > > J2SDK also

Re: mpkg-j2sdk and Sun's license (was: uploading mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-06-04 Thread Michael Tuschik
Hi, On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:48:02PM +0200, Hubert Schmid wrote: > Hi, > > The only possibility seems to create one package from the J2RE and one > package from the J2SDK and make them conflict on each other (because the > J2SDK also contains an J2RE). > > Any other suggestions? Or should I i

Re: Permissions and Java

2003-06-04 Thread Wolfgang Bär
Michael S Daines wrote: I've been having a few problems which are clearly related to permissions and some which may be. For example, when I load an app that creates DB tables, I get a message right away about: Jun 3, 2003 7:18:03 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences$3 run WARNING: Could not cr

Permissions and Java

2003-06-04 Thread Michael S Daines
I've been having a few problems which are clearly related to permissions and some which may be. For example, when I load an app that creates DB tables, I get a message right away about: Jun 3, 2003 7:18:03 AM java.util.prefs.FileSystemPreferences$3 run WARNING: Could not create system preferences