Re: errors installing j2sdk1.3

2002-05-28 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Eric" == Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> Am I stupid or are these things tricky? dpkg -Bi --force-overwrite java2-common -- Stephen "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."... "And therefore?"... "A witch!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 10:20 pm, Rick Lutowski wrote: > Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > as you think. Users *are* installing add-ons for flash and other crap. > > Only the more technically savvy ones. The majority of users > don't know what a plug-in is and/or couldn't care less. That's > why any tec

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Damian Morris
Browsers have been stuck at 1.1.4 for years because MS is legally constrained by Sun from implementing any Java spec past 1.1.4. Unfortunately, this of course suits MS to a T - they'd have had to have tried much harder to justify something with the scope of .NET if a modern J2SE-compliant JVM w

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Rick Lutowski
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why have browsers been stuck at 1.1 for years? Just a wild > > guess, but might it have something to do with MS stopping Java > > support with 1.1, and also controlling 80% of the browser market? > > It could also be becau

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 10:20 pm, Rick Lutowski wrote: > Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > as you think. Users *are* installing add-ons for flash and other crap. > > Only the more technically savvy ones. The majority of users > don't know what a plug-in is and/or couldn't care less. That's > why any te

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Damian Morris
Browsers have been stuck at 1.1.4 for years because MS is legally constrained by Sun from implementing any Java spec past 1.1.4. Unfortunately, this of course suits MS to a T - they'd have had to have tried much harder to justify something with the scope of .NET if a modern J2SE-compliant JVM

Re: Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Rick Lutowski
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why have browsers been stuck at 1.1 for years? Just a wild > > guess, but might it have something to do with MS stopping Java > > support with 1.1, and also controlling 80% of the browser market? > > It could also be beca

Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why have browsers been stuck at 1.1 for years? Just a wild > guess, but might it have something to do with MS stopping Java > support with 1.1, and also controlling 80% of the browser market? It could also be because the perceived benefit for the user

errors installing j2sdk1.3

2002-05-28 Thread Eric Smith
sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/deb

Java plugin advocacy

2002-05-28 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why have browsers been stuck at 1.1 for years? Just a wild > guess, but might it have something to do with MS stopping Java > support with 1.1, and also controlling 80% of the browser market? It could also be because the perceived benefit for the use

errors installing j2sdk1.3

2002-05-28 Thread Eric Smith
sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/de