Re: Java Policy.

2002-05-15 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 10:09:14PM -0700, T. Alexander Popiel wrote: *SNIP* (my own things) > I'm rather new with debian, and don't know much about debian > packaging. As such, I may be misinterpreting some of the > references in the Policy... but some things seem a tad off > to me. > > Other p

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 May 2002, Tomasz Rola wrote: > That way, the fact that I use Debian for my java development is totally > insignificant, because I don't need, don't ask for and moreover, I would > be dissatisfied when presented with packaged jdk without tar

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 May 2002, Tomasz Rola wrote: > That way, the fact that I use Debian for my java development is totally > insignificant, because I don't need, don't ask for and moreover, I would > be dissatisfied when presented with packaged jdk without ta

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Juergen" == Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Apropos flaming :*) I actually expected to get flamed for saying the Redhat don't build their own j2se packages from source the way Caldera do; guess that recollection was correct :) Juergen> According to Sun it's O

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Juergen" == Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Apropos flaming :*) I actually expected to get flamed for saying the Redhat don't build their own j2se packages from source the way Caldera do; guess that recollection was correct :) Juergen> According to Sun it's

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Lars Bjønnes
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For now, I'm trying to convince him about the goodness of blackdown > implementation, so we'll start a test using it. We've been using the blacdown debs in production on multiple systems for r ~1.5 years now, and we've had no problems what-so-ever

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > HI, > > > > > my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however > > > my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) > > > 1.3/1.4 release for debian. > > >

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas> From a quick Google; Stephen Zander is probably the > Thomas> person to ask, he had some pre-release of the 'official' > Thomas> Debian Blackdown-packages on his home-pag

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> From a quick Google; Stephen Zander is probably the person Thomas> to ask, he had some pre-release of the 'official' Debian Thomas> Blackdown-packages on his home-page on people.d.o (The Thomas> answer should also

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Lars Bjønnes
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For now, I'm trying to convince him about the goodness of blackdown > implementation, so we'll start a test using it. We've been using the blacdown debs in production on multiple systems for r ~1.5 years now, and we've had no problems what-so-ever

Re: Free Java specifications (was Re: Java Policy.)

2002-05-15 Thread Alex Lau
Does any existing linux-java group working on porting the complete API from SUN? The question I have is always down to what standard can we counting on. If you pick out the "Good" API from SUN and will that still being too "Large" for us to bite it off. I have a couple different VMs, different v

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Tomasz Rola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 15 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > HI, > > > > > my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however > > > my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) > > > 1.3/1.4 release for debian. > >

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas> From a quick Google; Stephen Zander is probably the > Thomas> person to ask, he had some pre-release of the 'official' > Thomas> Debian Blackdown-packages on his home-pa

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> From a quick Google; Stephen Zander is probably the person Thomas> to ask, he had some pre-release of the 'official' Debian Thomas> Blackdown-packages on his home-page on people.d.o (The Thomas> answer should als

Re: Free Java specifications (was Re: Java Policy.)

2002-05-15 Thread Alex Lau
Does any existing linux-java group working on porting the complete API from SUN? The question I have is always down to what standard can we counting on. If you pick out the "Good" API from SUN and will that still being too "Large" for us to bite it off. I have a couple different VMs, different

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Wed, 15 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Which is ridiculous because the officially provided package from Sun > > installs fine on a Debian machine. > yes, it is, but it *seems* an hacking, not a good solution. Hmm. And how does one see installing an app form source on a debian-machine

RE: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Hill, Benjamin W wrote: > >AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that > >doesn't mean you can't install the rpm or the tar.gz package. > > Does this not come under the terms of Sun Licensing? Is anyone else allowed > to package the SDK? IIRC the

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > HI, > > > my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however > > my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) > > 1.3/1.4 release for debian. > > AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that > doesn't mean you can't install th

RE: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Hill, Benjamin W
>AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that >doesn't mean you can't install the rpm or the tar.gz package. Does this not come under the terms of Sun Licensing? Is anyone else allowed to package the SDK? Cheers, Ben --- Ben Hill - Software Engineer [SCJP] SME Java T

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
HI, > my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however > my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) > 1.3/1.4 release for debian. AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that doesn't mean you can't install the rpm or the ta

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Wed, 15 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Which is ridiculous because the officially provided package from Sun > > installs fine on a Debian machine. > yes, it is, but it *seems* an hacking, not a good solution. Hmm. And how does one see installing an app form source on a debian-machin

RE: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Hill, Benjamin W wrote: > >AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that > >doesn't mean you can't install the rpm or the tar.gz package. > > Does this not come under the terms of Sun Licensing? Is anyone else allowed > to package the SDK? IIRC the

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Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > HI, > > > my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however > > my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) > > 1.3/1.4 release for debian. > > AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that > doesn't mean you can't install t

RE: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Hill, Benjamin W
>AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that >doesn't mean you can't install the rpm or the tar.gz package. Does this not come under the terms of Sun Licensing? Is anyone else allowed to package the SDK? Cheers, Ben --- Ben Hill - Software Engineer [SCJP] SME Java

SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello, my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) 1.3/1.4 release for debian. For now, I'm trying to convince him about the goodness of blackdown implementation, so we'll start a test using it. However

Re: SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
HI, > my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however > my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) > 1.3/1.4 release for debian. AFAIK there's no debian-package of the official Sun J2EE/J2SE, but that doesn't mean you can't install the rpm or the t

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2002-05-15 Thread linda
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SUN java

2002-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello, my company is starting to use debian as server to develop java, however my boss noticed that there is no SUN j2ee/j2sdk (official or not) 1.3/1.4 release for debian. For now, I'm trying to convince him about the goodness of blackdown implementation, so we'll start a test using it. Howeve