Re: Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Matthew Sherborne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010312 12:29]: > I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. Hmm. I have the j2sdk1.3 package installed. If you add the line: deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian woody non-free to your /etc/a

Re: Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Matthew Sherborne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010312 12:29]: > I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. Hmm. I have the j2sdk1.3 package installed. If you add the line: deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian woody non-free to your /etc/a

Debian packager's block

2001-03-12 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another reason is the lack of standards in the way compilers and VMs > are run, making the installation of every new jar a problem (defining > environment variables, etc). The proposed Java policy tried to solve > this and I would suggest that work

Re: Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt
On Monday 12 March 2001 21:16, Matthew Sherborne wrote: > I couldn't get the blackdown "java" program to run my program. It says > java.lang.NoClassDef("HelloWorld"); (or something like that) Is your "CLASSPATH" set correct? Try "export CLASSPATH=." and then try again. (that's a dot after the =).

Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Matthew Sherborne
Hi I'm a newbie Java guy. It took me three days to get setup with Java in Debian. I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. I couldn't get the blackdown "java" program to run my program. It says java.lang.NoClassDef("HelloWorld"); (or something like that) Any way I

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Oliver Elphick wrote: > /usr3/home/olly/mypackages/pg7.1/postgresql-7.1beta5/src/interfaces/ > jdbc/build.xml:99: Cannot use classic compiler, as it is not available Try using the jikes compiler instead, i.e. add (or change) the build.compiler property in this section: > ...bafflement! What

Debian packager's block

2001-03-12 Thread brlewis
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another reason is the lack of standards in the way compilers and VMs > are run, making the installation of every new jar a problem (defining > environment variables, etc). The proposed Java policy tried to solve > this and I would suggest that wor

Re: Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt
On Monday 12 March 2001 21:16, Matthew Sherborne wrote: > I couldn't get the blackdown "java" program to run my program. It says > java.lang.NoClassDef("HelloWorld"); (or something like that) Is your "CLASSPATH" set correct? Try "export CLASSPATH=." and then try again. (that's a dot after the =)

Newbie blackdown problem

2001-03-12 Thread Matthew Sherborne
Hi I'm a newbie Java guy. It took me three days to get setup with Java in Debian. I'm using the jde package, originally with the blackdown compiler etc. I couldn't get the blackdown "java" program to run my program. It says java.lang.NoClassDef("HelloWorld"); (or something like that) Any way

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Oliver Elphick wrote: > /usr3/home/olly/mypackages/pg7.1/postgresql-7.1beta5/src/interfaces/ > jdbc/build.xml:99: Cannot use classic compiler, as it is not available Try using the jikes compiler instead, i.e. add (or change) the build.compiler property in this section: > ...bafflement! Wha

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
hOn 12 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: > True - but Gcj *does* supply a VM in the traditional (java) sense. > I guess not enough people know this. Indeed, I am one of them. > Gcj aims to be a *complete* Java solution. As I say, I had no idea. I thought gcj was purely a compiler project, which mea

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Stephen Zander wrote: >> "Oliver" == Oliver Elphick writes: >Oliver> ...bafflement! What is "classic compiler"? The XML line >Oliver> begins " >Oliver> I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains >Oliver> /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. > >Are these JDBC drivers definativ

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Per Bothner
Bob Ham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010312 03:25]: > I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java > compiler, The purpose is to be a Java implementation which is *based* on ahead-of-time-compilation - but it does include a VM. Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because g

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Oliver" == Oliver Elphick writes: Oliver> ...bafflement! What is "classic compiler"? The XML line Oliver> begins " I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains Oliver> /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. Are these JDBC drivers definatively known to work with a 1.1 JDK or do they require Jav

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
hOn 12 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: > True - but Gcj *does* supply a VM in the traditional (java) sense. > I guess not enough people know this. Indeed, I am one of them. > Gcj aims to be a *complete* Java solution. As I say, I had no idea. I thought gcj was purely a compiler project, which me

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Stephen Zander wrote: >> "Oliver" == Oliver Elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Oliver> ...bafflement! What is "classic compiler"? The XML line >Oliver> begins " >Oliver> I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains >Oliver> /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. > >Are these JD

Re: kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Per Bothner
Bob Ham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010312 03:25]: > I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java > compiler, The purpose is to be a Java implementation which is *based* on ahead-of-time-compilation - but it does include a VM. Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Oliver" == Oliver Elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Oliver> ...bafflement! What is "classic compiler"? The XML line Oliver> begins " I have jdk1.1 installed, which contains Oliver> /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/javac. Are these JDBC drivers definatively known to work with a 1.1 JDK or

kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Bob Ham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010312 03:25]: > I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java > compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to build a VM, having KJC as > an aside. Did I miss something? Because gcj can compile directly to native machine code, gcj can compet

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >Oliver Elphick wrote: > >> Debs of PostgreSQL 7.1beta5 are available at http://people.debian.org/~elp >hick/ >> postgresql/ > >Great ! Thank you, Oliver ! > >A suggestion : > >Could some kind soul prepare the JDBC drivers (and maybe package the

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
On 11 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: > (Note I am not particularly interested in the success of Kaffe, > given my association with Gcj, which can be viewed as a Kaffe > competitor.) I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to b

Re: Kaffe and Microsoft [Was: Quitting debian-java]

2001-03-12 Thread Edouard G. Parmelan
Alan KF LAU wrote: > Thanks for your information I didn't release there's microsoft.jar in > it. :D > > I'm not going to hate kaffe because it's being funded by Microsoft, but > its lack of java.security. Java programmers would find it difficult to > build a commercial grade java application with

kaffe/gcj (was: Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Bob Ham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010312 03:25]: > I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java > compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to build a VM, having KJC as > an aside. Did I miss something? Because gcj can compile directly to native machine code, gcj can compe

Re: PG7.1b5 .debs

2001-03-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: >Oliver Elphick wrote: > >> Debs of PostgreSQL 7.1beta5 are available at http://people.debian.org/~elp >hick/ >> postgresql/ > >Great ! Thank you, Oliver ! > >A suggestion : > >Could some kind soul prepare the JDBC drivers (and maybe package th

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-12 Thread Bob Ham
On 11 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: > (Note I am not particularly interested in the success of Kaffe, > given my association with Gcj, which can be viewed as a Kaffe > competitor.) I was under the impression that Gcj's main purpose was to build a java compiler, as opposed to Kaffe's which was to

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-12 Thread Per Bothner
Alan KF LAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As a Java programmer I seriously suspect any one could build a > commercial-level(in-house, transaction-based, etc.) java application > without java.security. I assume you mean "doubt" instead of "suspect". "commercial-level" does not mean "in-house, tra

Re: Kaffe and Microsoft [Was: Quitting debian-java]

2001-03-12 Thread Edouard G. Parmelan
Alan KF LAU wrote: > Thanks for your information I didn't release there's microsoft.jar in > it. :D > > I'm not going to hate kaffe because it's being funded by Microsoft, but > its lack of java.security. Java programmers would find it difficult to > build a commercial grade java application wit