Free Java software. was: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-03 Thread Greg Wilkins
I think Stephanes criticism of the free JVM landscape is quiet correct, and there is no clear way forward to resolve many off them... However, I'd like to stress that there is a big distinction between a free JVM and free java software. Java is a rich environment for free software (eg 1802 java p

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 2 March 2001, at 18 h 51, Alexander Hvostov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those who believe Java and free software is a sad landscape are woefully > unaware of reality... I must confess my lack of experience with Java. Certainly you run far more Java programs than me. And I have to ad

Java 2 in Debian Main

2001-03-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> I also would imagine that some day there will be free Java2 AR> implementation. And we could drop non-free :) Well, I believe anyone who -wants- there to be a Free Java 2 implementation in Debian could probably work on one of the

Free Java software. was: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-03 Thread Greg Wilkins
I think Stephanes criticism of the free JVM landscape is quiet correct, and there is no clear way forward to resolve many off them... However, I'd like to stress that there is a big distinction between a free JVM and free java software. Java is a rich environment for free software (eg 1802 ja

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 2 March 2001, at 18 h 51, Alexander Hvostov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those who believe Java and free software is a sad landscape are woefully > unaware of reality... I must confess my lack of experience with Java. Certainly you run far more Java programs than me. And I have to a

Java 2 in Debian Main

2001-03-03 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> I also would imagine that some day there will be free Java2 AR> implementation. And we could drop non-free :) Well, I believe anyone who -wants- there to be a Free Java 2 implementation in Debian could probably work on one of the

Java OSS

2001-03-03 Thread Artur Radosz
Something more positive :) http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/wlg/119