Re: Debian Java outlook

1999-09-10 Thread Jim Franklin
Hi folks, I am also a lurker and fairly new to the Java-debian scene(watching the mailing list for a number of months). I am by profession an engineer and have worked startups for the last 15 years. Perhaps the question of a "Debian Java Policy" might be handled as part of the creation of a no

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-10 Thread Mark W. Eichin
Yeah, I'd have to admit that "java versions of find/ls/posix.1" don't interest me at all (or any more than, for example, Ada95 or Forth versions do. A little less, because Ada95 ports are at least likely to be more accurate implementations of their specs, a mostly psychological advantage...) My "

Re: Java Policy Question

1999-09-10 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: Stephane> On Friday 10 September 1999, at 10 h 2, the keyboard of Stephane> David Warnock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> a) often need newer versions than have been packaged eg we had problems >> with jdk1.1.7 and are now using jdk1.1.7b which is n

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-10 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> Cris J Holdorph writes: Cris> I mostly lurk on debian-java, because I have an interest in both. Cris> However, I have no immediate hope of those two ever meeting. If Cris> they do, great. If not, I'll continue to install the JDK and Jserv Cris> myself. At least potato has

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-10 Thread Cris J. Holdorph
Bernd Kreimeier Writes: > Of course, your goals might differ, and with a different > roadmap, a different policy makes sense. The question I > tried to ask when the policy proposal came up originally > was: what is your vision of "Java in Debian"? Is it just > a bunch of packages to put somewhere,

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-10 Thread Bernd Kreimeier
Cris J. Holdorph writes: > Bernd Kreimeier Writes: > > When we can implement find etc. in pure Java, and create > > ELF as well as a bytecode from the same Java source using > > the basis to formulate a policy, or even plot a roadmap on how > > Java could make binary-all grow and shrink binar

Re: Java Policy Question

1999-09-10 Thread Paul Reavis
David Warnock wrote: > > Stephane (sorry no accent on the e), > > I have not been following the discussions on the policy very closely but > I have a query. > > We are developing java applications on Debian. But we are not using the > standard debian packages for jdk, jre or jikes. The reason is

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 9 September 1999, at 12 h 21, the keyboard of Bernd Kreimeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- defining a Java equivalent to libc > (collection of utility classes shared among Java "binaries") Isn't it java.lang.* ? >- a free compiler to convert pure Java source or "bina

Re: Java Policy Question

1999-09-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 10 September 1999, at 10 h 2, the keyboard of David Warnock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) often need newer versions than have been packaged eg we had problems > with jdk1.1.7 and are now using jdk1.1.7b which is not packaged in > potato. IMHO, this should be a bug/wishlist against th

Java Policy Question

1999-09-10 Thread David Warnock
Stephane (sorry no accent on the e), I have not been following the discussions on the policy very closely but I have a query. We are developing java applications on Debian. But we are not using the standard debian packages for jdk, jre or jikes. The reason is that we a) often need newer version