On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 02:42:24PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> >
> > > SO... if you plan on receiving email from me or Asia, I suggest you
> use
> > > RBLs with clear listing and removal policies and methods (eg. the RBLs
> I
> > > listed above, and others),
> >
> > This is a good policy. Using DNSB
> > >
> > > > SO... if you plan on receiving email from me or Asia, I suggest
you
> > use
> > > > RBLs with clear listing and removal policies and methods (eg. the
RBLs
> > I
> > > > listed above, and others),
> > >
> > > This is a good policy. Using DNSBL's that don't have some
> > > resolution
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 02:46:55PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> > amusingly, however, you completely discredit your line of argument
> > by suggesting that bl.spamcop.net is a viable substitute.
> > bl.spamcop.net isn't even a good RBL let alone any kind of a
> > substitute for osirusoft, their moroni
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 04:49:28PM +1200, thing wrote:
> what would be the feature syntax in sendmail.mc for using osirusoft
> please? im in NZ and sick to death of being spammed from asia
i'm not sure. it's been a few years since i used sendmail. my guess is
that it would be something like:
FE
Hi,
Does anyone know where I could find a good and *fair(ish)* comparison of
the different server side scripting languages on the web ?
I would also be very interested in a similar comparison of databases.
If anyone knows of a better place that I could post this message, please
let me know.
T
> the same problem occurs for anyone unfortunate enough to use a clueless
> or spamhaus ISP. it's got NOTHING to do with the fact that it's asian.
> spamhaus and open relay ISP's *MUST* be blacklisted regardless of what
> continent they are on.
Then please... go ahead and block rackspace netbloc
Dear All,
I am a beginner in linux, and now i have a problem with my new installation.
I try to install a debian using debian potato rel. 2.2R4,
my computer is compag, using scsi hardrive. But when i try to boot using the cd
of debian rel. 2.2.R4 my scsi hardisk didn't detect/probe by debian
au
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:02, Jason Lim wrote:
> As I said in a previous email:
>
> -
> It was once said that it is better to let off 10 criminals than to put 1
> innocent man in jail.
>
> You, on the other hand, suggest it is better to put 10 innocent men in
> jail for 1 crimi
Sincerely,
- Original Message -
From: "Russell Coker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: failure notice (about relays.osirusoft.com)
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:02, Jason Lim wrote:
> > As
This isn't really a Debian-ISP question.. but anyway...
I don't think the 2.2 release had the Compaq SCSI drivers built into the
kernel.
You either need to compile/get a kernel with the required SCSI drivers
built in, or get the module for it.
Check the Debian website... I think there were boot
> You either need to compile/get a kernel with the required SCSI drivers
> built in, or get the module for it.
A module probably won't do if the root file system (/) is on a SCSI driver. I
think you will have to compile the driver statically into the kernel.
- Jarno
At 12:27 08/18/2002 +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
>Because you are using the combined RBL relays.osirusoft.com, and since Joe
>Jared (single operator of relays.osirusoft) has a documented chip on his
>shoulder against Asia and iAdvantage
Osirusoft is not a blocklist, it is just an aggregate of other lis
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:00, Jason Lim wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:02, Jason Lim wrote:
> > > It was once said that it is better to let off 10 criminals than to put
> > > 1 innocent man in jail.
> > >
> > > You, on the other hand, suggest it is better to put 10 innocent men in
> > > jail for 1
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:04, Jason Lim wrote:
> I don't think the 2.2 release had the Compaq SCSI drivers built into the
> kernel.
In version 1:21.7-3 of LILO I added support for booting Compaq CCISS SCSI
RAID, if you have that then you need a woody version of LILO. I've got a
potato back-port of
> Large multinational firms get to choose their own policy for spam
blocking,
> they don't let an ISP tell them what to do. All you need is a MD of a
> company they do business with being unable to send an email to the MD of
> their company and heads will roll.
> If you want to persue your crusa
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:55, Jason Lim wrote:
> > Large multinational firms get to choose their own policy for spam
> > blocking,
> > they don't let an ISP tell them what to do. All you need is a MD of a
> > company they do business with being unable to send an email to the MD of
> > their company a
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Russell Coker wrote:
> Also it would be good to see a response from you to Jules regarding the
> "Zentek (Jason Lim) is a spam-house, Iadvantage
> tolerates spammers" issue.
Actually, it wouldn't, at least not on debian-user, where it is WAY OT.
imo
Patrick
--
Patrick Wi
>
> Osirusoft is not a blocklist, it is just an aggregate of other lists.
Joe
> Jared is not listing you, he's simply distributing lists which do. If
you
> stop the spamming for which you are personally responsible, the
blocklist
> maintaners will remove your IP addresses from their lists.
Osirus
> > So... if suppose for people that do not send email to/from Asia,
blocking
> > ALL of Asia off wouldn't make the slightest difference to them. So
hence
> > RBLs that block all of Asia may indeed block out a lot of spam because
> > American spammers are abusing the Asian servers/networks.
> >
> >
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 18:30, Jason Lim wrote:
> Already have responded to it. I'm vocal about Western spammers abusing
> Asian networks and servers, and then having Asia blocked for it. Sure,
> fight people when they can't even speak English, and then wonder why they
> don't respond to english email.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 05:27:00PM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
>
> What I call a resolution method are those used by ORDB.org, SPAMCOP.net,
> VISI.com, and plenty of other ones.
Around all day . . .
> > Which means, quite simply, that iAdvantage hosts spammers, and refuses
> > to remove them.
>
> I
Take it somewhere else please, like news.admin.mail-abuse or whatever that
newsgroup is that has a bunch of posers claiming not to be from SPEWS and
other fascist BLs. Apparently that newsgroups is specifically used for this
kind of thing. No, seriously though, take it somewhere else. You are no
Please take this conversation off debian-user. I'm not entirely sure why
it ended up here, but it's quite off-topic.
Thanks,
--
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
u may have to start with the 2 compact image floppies they are on the CD.
regards
Thing
sihite wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I am a beginner in linux, and now i have a problem with my new installation.
> I try to install a debian using debian potato rel. 2.2R4,
> my computer is compag, using scsi hard
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 07:54:14PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Please take this conversation off debian-user. I'm not entirely sure
> why
> it ended up here, but it's quite off-topic.
I felt that a discussion of email block lists was, indeed, on topic.
Note the number of other discussions re: em
Well,
I has been using amavis-perl with uvscan, under exim and sendmail,
and find out several thigs that didnt work out fine. To begin with uvscan,
it's far too heavy on the server, it try to access several hard disk and if
it finds a cd-rom it atemp to open it, That make a server crash for
Hi!
I used amavis-perl (not the daemonised version) with postfix using uvscan
and AVP at the same time for one year in two relay server with a mailload
of 15000 message/day using (very) cheap hardware (clueless IT managment)
and with no noticeable loads.
> crash for overload, It might be a misco
> >
> > (sorry for the long link... i couldn't find a way to make it much
> > shorter).
>
> http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ :-) -rt
>
Ah yes, I'll need to keep that one in mind next time. Thanks :-)
>
> > And you wonder why Chinese admins don't respond. What would YOU do if
you
> > got an email in Yiddish?
>
> When I get email in Chinese I just report it to SpamCop, if I've ever
> received a Yiddish email I'm sure I did the same.
Eeep... spam or not?
Nei how ma? ;-)
> Everyone who is doing
> Please take this conversation off debian-user. I'm not entirely sure why
> it ended up here, but it's quite off-topic.
Isn't the discussion of various RBLs and mail software on-topic?
Doesn't this affect debian users ability to receive email?
Would discussion of various anti-virus software be m
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:23:11AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> > says, and I quote, "Zentek (Jason Lim) is a spam-house, Iadvantage
> > tolerates spammers.
>
> Thats right... because I'm one of the first people to complain about
> this and probably the most vocal (and I'll continue to do so until
>
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 00:51, you wrote:
> reply to my last email? I'm sorry to bother, but I'm trying to find a
I missed that, but it seems you raise the same issues here.
> suitable filesystem and mount options for a qmail queue. DJB says no to
> ext2 unless it's sync mounted, but I found abysma
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:42, Jason Lim wrote:
> > When I get email in Chinese I just report it to SpamCop, if I've ever
> > received a Yiddish email I'm sure I did the same.
>
> Eeep... spam or not?
Mail in Chinese is considered spam until proven otherwise. There is no way
of proving otherwise...
>
> whether you like it or not, anyone can block email on their own servers
> using whatever criteria they choose. you do NOT have a right to have
> your mail accepted. nobody does. that choice rests with the recipient
> server.
Yeah... except many End-users don't know / not aware of what RBLs
>
> > I suppose because I notice these things first I tend to be the
"bringer of
> > bad news" to people and hence get flamed most. Oh well.
>
> Why not bring the news to people who run those Asian ISPs?
>
Because i can't possibly start teaching hundreds... possibly thousands of
chinese net admin
On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 12:47:54PM +0100, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> Does anyone know where I could find a good and *fair(ish)* comparison
> of the different server side scripting languages on the web ?
i haven't seen any comprehensive comparisons, but i've used and dabbled
with a few.
IMO, the best
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:57:35AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> AND I REPEAT (since you didn't choose to reply to this):
> ---
> [blah blah blah]
>
> What do you think now?
i think you're bring up irrelevancies. the fact that company A is doing
wrong is not j
> > > Been there. Seen it. There are two sides to this issue, and when
> > > you put 'em both on the same news group, you'd better expect
> > > flames, especially when they are so totally diametrically opposed.
> >
> > This only supports my previous statment that telling people to go to
NANAE
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:57:35AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> > AND I REPEAT (since you didn't choose to reply to this):
> > ---
> > [blah blah blah]
> >
> > What do you think now?
>
> i think you're bring up irrelevancies. the fact that company A is doing
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 03:02, Jason Lim wrote:
> Blah... somehow I don't think this is going anywhere. USA and western
> spammers will continue to find fault in chinese networks and servers to
> kingdom come. Perhaps the chinese admins should block USA mail traffic
> altogether so USA and western spam
Hello, (only sending to the Debian ISP list).
Although the talk of email block lists was getting
somewhat out of hand it is an extremely important subject.
If some good could come from talk on this subject
I would be most happy. For now please lets stop
looping Joe Jared and iAdvantage. We p
At 5:20 PM +1000 8/17/02, Mitchell Smith wrote:
>Here is a neet little app that sounds like it will do what you want.
Didn't appear to - maybe I wasn't specific enough. But thanks for the
effort of replying.
As it turns out, SSH allows me to do exactly what I need using the -R
option (reverse pro
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:50:44AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2002 at 12:47:54PM +0100, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> > Does anyone know where I could find a good and *fair(ish)* comparison
> > of the different server side scripting languages on the web ?
>
> i haven't seen any compre
We tray to run with noboot but the uvscan show the same behaviour, the
directory under which apear the messages is /var/spool/mqueue . I double
check the config, and it's like the examples, in the spanish list someone
report the same proble but he solve it migrating to the demonised version.
I olso
On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 10:43 AM, Jason Lim wrote:
Well, Thank God the chinese CCCP (China) party meetings aren't like
that.
Can you imagine 1000's of leaders of each province getting into an
"heated
discussion" like that?
And besides... having those western legistative ppl... in Australi
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