Re: load average question

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Sonny Kupka wrote: > pop-3 stream tcp nowait.200 root/usr/sbin/tcpd > /usr/sbin/in.qpopper -R -B -f /etc/qpopper.conf > > Key being: nowait.200 xinetd uses different configurations than inetd. Some parts of my configs: # - added cps for 50 seconds

Re: load average question

2002-11-25 Thread Olivier Macchioni
++ 25/11/02 08:51 -0800 - Jeremy C. Reed: >On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Scott wrote: > >> > No performance issues using vm-pop3d, exim (MTA), apache and >> > OpenWebMail with around 10,000 email accounts on similar hardware. >> >> 10,000 email accounts on a similar machine? Man, I must be doing >> somet

Re: load average question

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Scott wrote: > > No performance issues using vm-pop3d, exim (MTA), apache and > > OpenWebMail with around 10,000 email accounts on similar hardware. > > 10,000 email accounts on a similar machine? Man, I must be doing > something wrong! I assume you are running Debian? So

Re: load average question

2002-11-25 Thread Nick Mitchell
I am running Debian 3.0 on one mail server with 3,000+ mailboxes using Postfix/Procmail/IMP/MySQL/qpopper/Apache. And I have very low cpu/mem usages. And it is a single proc PIII-500 with 256MB of ram. And it works great. I agree with the other posts that qpopper is a dog, but I don't such a perf

Re: load average question

2002-11-25 Thread Sonny Kupka
Qpopper also has a habit of just stopping, I have have to reload xinetd several times a day. I run qpopper here with users keeping mail in /var/mail/username and have no problems what so ever with the setup.. You have your server set to allow alot of "pops" at the same time? I have this: p

Re: load average question

2002-11-24 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy C. Reed) [2002.11.23 17:19]: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Scott St. John wrote: > > So the question is: is anyone running a similar set up with either > > Sendmail or Posrtfix servicing 2,000+ email accounts with any > > performance issues? > > No performance issues using vm

Re: load average question

2002-11-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 11:01:28PM -0500, Scott wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Craig Sanders wrote: > > - install radius on the RH or Mandrake machine > > - configure your NAS boxes to use it > > - blow away the suse box and install debian > > - (optionally) move radius back to it, configure NA

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Scott
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Craig Sanders wrote: > - install radius on the RH or Mandrake machine > - configure your NAS boxes to use it > - blow away the suse box and install debian > - (optionally) move radius back to it, configure NAS boxes to use it again. > - install apache and start moving vho

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Scott
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > Use top(1) to to view processes. Have been doing that constantly, my eyes hurt :) Sendmail the top dog with the occasional hit from Openwebmail which shows as perl. Popper will do a quick peak and then usually drop off. > No performance issues usin

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Scott St. John wrote: > territory and installed 7.2 with Sendmail/QPopper/Apache/OpenWebMail. I am > paying > for that now with a huge performance problem. I am seeing Load Averages > spiking > above 6 during the day. Hardware is a Dual P3-600 with a gig of ram on a IBM >

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 09:20:25AM +0100, Torsten Krueger wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:51, Scott St. John wrote: > > > A few weeks ago we talked about me moving a server from BSDi to Debian. As > > > luck > > > would have it that BSDi se

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 07:56:15AM -0500, Scott St. John wrote: > At 01:43 PM 11/23/2002 +0100, Torsten Krueger wrote: > >You can convert the mboxes with mbox2maildir. Changing from Sendmail > >to Postfix shouldn't bei a hassle and if properly prepared shouldn't > >produce a long downtime. Dependin

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:57:45 +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maildir does have some other advantages (e.g. it's NFS safe, and there >are no locking hassles*) so, all else being equal, it's a good choice to >make...but mbox isn't a bad choice either. There is no decent IMAP server

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 23:51, Scott St. John wrote: > territory and installed 7.2 with Sendmail/QPopper/Apache/OpenWebMail. I am Of course, people on the postfix mailing list are biased but I think switching away from sendmail would take off some of the load (assuming that sendmail actuall

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Scott St. John
At 01:43 PM 11/23/2002 +0100, Torsten Krueger wrote: You can convert the mboxes with mbox2maildir. Changing from Sendmail to Postfix shouldn't bei a hassle and if properly prepared shouldn't produce a long downtime. Depending on the amount and size of your mboxes the conversion takes some time, bu

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2002-11-23 Thread Torsten Krueger
Hi Scott, On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Scott St. John wrote: > Is it possible to move current mail to the maildir format? I inconvenienced > the clients once with the crash and now that things are not running as smooth > I don't want to run the risk of long amounts of downtime. I really want to go > Po

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Scott St. John
At 09:20 AM 11/23/2002 +0100, Torsten Krueger wrote: Hmm - watch out for the load qpopper produces. Since the sendmail/qpopper combination uses mbox a users mailbox is copied every time the mbox is accessed. If you have large mailboxes (e.g. no quota an users leave mail on server) this can produce

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Scott St. John
At 08:40 AM 11/23/2002 +0100, Russell Coker wrote: Apart from webmail that should be a trivial load. Webmail systems seem to take up lots of resources in my experience, is it an option to have a separate machine for webmail? I was thinking the same thing, if I can get Openwebmail to load on ano

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 10:26:14AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:20, Torsten Krueger wrote: > > Hmm - watch out for the load qpopper produces. Since the > > sendmail/qpopper combination uses mbox a users mailbox is copied > > every time the mbox is accessed. If you have large

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:20, Torsten Krueger wrote: > Hmm - watch out for the load qpopper produces. Since the sendmail/qpopper > combination uses mbox a users mailbox is copied every time the mbox is > accessed. If you have large mailboxes (e.g. no quota an users leave mail > on server) this can pro

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 08:40:20AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:51, Scott St. John wrote: > > A few weeks ago we talked about me moving a server from BSDi to > > Debian. As luck would have it that BSDi server gave out last Monday > > and I had to move fast to replace it. K

Re: load average question

2002-11-23 Thread Torsten Krueger
Hi, On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:51, Scott St. John wrote: > > A few weeks ago we talked about me moving a server from BSDi to Debian. As > > luck > > would have it that BSDi server gave out last Monday and I had to move fast > > to replace > > it. Knowing

Re: load average question

2002-11-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:51, Scott St. John wrote: > A few weeks ago we talked about me moving a server from BSDi to Debian. As > luck > would have it that BSDi server gave out last Monday and I had to move fast > to replace > it. Knowing I can do a RH install in about 30 minutes I went the route o

load average question

2002-11-22 Thread Scott St. John
Hi Gang: A few weeks ago we talked about me moving a server from BSDi to Debian. As luck would have it that BSDi server gave out last Monday and I had to move fast to replace it. Knowing I can do a RH install in about 30 minutes I went the route of familiar territory and installed 7.2 with Se