Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-08 Thread Torbjorn Pettersson
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:50, Torbjorn Pettersson wrote: > > /boot : Sector sizes and such already discussed, you will > > discover that you need a separate boot, and then it > > will be to late. You are not talking about wasing space > > her

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-08 Thread Torbjorn Pettersson
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:50, Torbjorn Pettersson wrote: > > /boot : Sector sizes and such already discussed, you will > > discover that you need a separate boot, and then it > > will be to late. You are not talking about wasing space > > he

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:50, Torbjorn Pettersson wrote: > /boot : Sector sizes and such already discussed, you will >discover that you need a separate boot, and then it >will be to late. You are not talking about wasing space >here either, it can be really small, but you will

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:50, Torbjorn Pettersson wrote: > /boot : Sector sizes and such already discussed, you will >discover that you need a separate boot, and then it >will be to late. You are not talking about wasing space >here either, it can be really small, but you will

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-05 Thread Torbjorn Pettersson
"Kevin J. Menard, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey guys (and gals), > > I'm redoing a machine of mine. Was a Mandrake system, but now it's going > to > be a debian one ;) > > Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's really 40 > there, but I run a h

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-05 Thread Torbjorn Pettersson
"Kevin J. Menard, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey guys (and gals), > > I'm redoing a machine of mine. Was a Mandrake system, but now it's going to > be a debian one ;) > > Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's really 40 > there, but I run a har

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:26, Christian Hammers wrote: > > If your root file system is at the start then it is unlikely to be > > large enough to break any boot loaders. Recent boot loaders are very > > capable... > > fill it up to more than 512MB (was it that number?) and then compile a > new kernel

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:26, Christian Hammers wrote: > > If your root file system is at the start then it is unlikely to be > > large enough to break any boot loaders. Recent boot loaders are very > > capable... > > fill it up to more than 512MB (was it that number?) and then compile a > new kernel

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-03 Thread Nick Jennings
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:26:46AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > I use 2.4.6-pre7 and use LVM,reiserfs and ext3 without problems. > (maybe my kernel is just too recent...) > ext3 has just recently been ported over to kernel 2.4, and you have no problems you say? (when I say recent, I mean

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-03 Thread Christian Hammers
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:12:31PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > If your root file system is at the start then it is unlikely to be large > enough to break any boot loaders. Recent boot loaders are very capable... fill it up to more than 512MB (was it that number?) and then compile a new kernel y

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-03 Thread Nick Jennings
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:26:46AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > I use 2.4.6-pre7 and use LVM,reiserfs and ext3 without problems. > (maybe my kernel is just too recent...) > ext3 has just recently been ported over to kernel 2.4, and you have no problems you say? (when I say recent, I mean

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-03 Thread Christian Hammers
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:12:31PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > If your root file system is at the start then it is unlikely to be large > enough to break any boot loaders. Recent boot loaders are very capable... fill it up to more than 512MB (was it that number?) and then compile a new kernel

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-02 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 30 June 2001 17:49, Christian Hammers wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:13:33AM -0400, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > > Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's > > really 40 there, but I run a hardware RAID 10). I also have half a > > gig of SDRAM (sure th

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-07-02 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 30 June 2001 17:49, Christian Hammers wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:13:33AM -0400, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > > Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's > > really 40 there, but I run a hardware RAID 10). I also have half a > > gig of SDRAM (sure t

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-30 Thread Christian Hammers
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:13:33AM -0400, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's really 40 > there, but I run a hardware RAID 10). I also have half a gig of SDRAM > (sure > this would matter with swap space). Now, I have no prob

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-30 Thread Christian Hammers
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:13:33AM -0400, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's really 40 > there, but I run a hardware RAID 10). I also have half a gig of SDRAM (sure > this would matter with swap space). Now, I have no proble

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Georg Lehner
Hello! Just to throw a word in too. Every than and now I have been longing for a small partition with a minimal system, just with what the Debian Installation Disquette contains (~ 2 M). When fsck finds a somewhat bigger problem (my clients and friends seem like to pull the plug or press that fo

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Georg Lehner
Hello! Just to throw a word in too. Every than and now I have been longing for a small partition with a minimal system, just with what the Debian Installation Disquette contains (~ 2 M). When fsck finds a somewhat bigger problem (my clients and friends seem like to pull the plug or press that f

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 21:13, Nick Jennings wrote: > > However if you have a single large partition then when you are > > writing data the FS drivers can optimise things. > > I always thought that this was a performance hit, I know I've read it > in places before, but I can't seem to find them a

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Nick Jennings
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:19:31AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 22 June 2001 17:46, Duane Powers wrote: > > on /. I _always_ use a seprarate /home, so I can keep data in case I > > have to reinstall the OS, (successful intrustion attempt, etc.) and > > Of course the re-installation coul

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Nick Jennings
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 09:34:59AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Saturday 23 June 2001 04:10, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > > The main performance benefit to having directories reside on their own > > partition relates to file write/read access. It's very important to > > have var on it's own sep

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 17:46, Duane Powers wrote: > Hm, This is interesting, I have almost always used separate partitions, > such as /var, and it's saved my butt a couple times. If a log file > starts to run away, which I've had happen a twice, it can't overflow > the boundaries of the partition

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 21:13, Nick Jennings wrote: > > However if you have a single large partition then when you are > > writing data the FS drivers can optimise things. > > I always thought that this was a performance hit, I know I've read it > in places before, but I can't seem to find them

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Nick Jennings
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:19:31AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 22 June 2001 17:46, Duane Powers wrote: > > on /. I _always_ use a seprarate /home, so I can keep data in case I > > have to reinstall the OS, (successful intrustion attempt, etc.) and > > Of course the re-installation cou

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Nick Jennings
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 09:34:59AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Saturday 23 June 2001 04:10, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > > The main performance benefit to having directories reside on their own > > partition relates to file write/read access. It's very important to > > have var on it's own se

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 17:46, Duane Powers wrote: > Hm, This is interesting, I have almost always used separate partitions, > such as /var, and it's saved my butt a couple times. If a log file > starts to run away, which I've had happen a twice, it can't overflow > the boundaries of the partition

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 04:10, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > one and waste space. Do the performance gains outweigh this? (I'm > > > not terribly worried about the redundancy with the RAID 10 and > > > all). > > > > What performance gains are you referring to? > > The main performance benefit to h

Re: Re[6]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 03:35, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > >> I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get > >> messed up, it wouldn't affect /. > > I guess I'm off here. By getting messed up, I mean more by say a > sudden jolt in the power supply (of course, I do have a

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 04:10, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > one and waste space. Do the performance gains outweigh this? (I'm > > > not terribly worried about the redundancy with the RAID 10 and > > > all). > > > > What performance gains are you referring to? > > The main performance benefit to

Re: Re[6]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 23 June 2001 03:35, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > >> I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get > >> messed up, it wouldn't affect /. > > I guess I'm off here. By getting messed up, I mean more by say a > sudden jolt in the power supply (of course, I do have a

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Nick Jennings
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 03:17:12PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > > looking for help, it will be used as an IMAP/SMTP machine. So, should > > I create a separate /var partition? I'm hesitant because I don't want > > to a) not create a large enough partition, or b) create too large of > > I sug

Re[6]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 7:22:41 PM, you wrote: >> I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get >> messed up, it wouldn't affect /. I guess I'm off here. By getting messed up, I mean more by say a sudden jolt in the power supply (of course, I do have a line co

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Nick Jennings
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 03:17:12PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > > looking for help, it will be used as an IMAP/SMTP machine. So, should > > I create a separate /var partition? I'm hesitant because I don't want > > to a) not create a large enough partition, or b) create too large of > > I su

Re: Re[4]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 17:33, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > RC> What exactly will that save you from? If the root FS gets messed > up then RC> having a separate /boot won't gain you much... > > I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get > messed up, it wouldn't affect /.

Re[6]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 7:22:41 PM, you wrote: >> I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get >> messed up, it wouldn't affect /. I guess I'm off here. By getting messed up, I mean more by say a sudden jolt in the power supply (of course, I do have a line c

Re: Re[4]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 17:33, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > RC> What exactly will that save you from? If the root FS gets messed > up then RC> having a separate /boot won't gain you much... > > I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get > messed up, it wouldn't affect /.

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Duane Powers
Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 11:07:37 AM, you wrote: RC> What exactly will that save you from? If the root FS gets messed up then RC> having a separate /boot won't gain you much... I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get messed up, it

Re[4]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 11:07:37 AM, you wrote: RC> What exactly will that save you from? If the root FS gets messed up then RC> having a separate /boot won't gain you much... I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get messed up, it wouldn't affect /. RC>

Re: Re[2]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 16:39, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > Friday, June 22, 2001, 9:17:12 AM, you wrote: > > RC> On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > >> This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was > >> figuring a large /home partition. Likewise only one o

Re[2]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 9:17:12 AM, you wrote: RC> On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: >> This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was figuring >> a large /home partition. Likewise only one or two kernels max, so I >> figured a small /boot. A

Re[2]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 9:17:12 AM, you wrote: RC> On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: >> This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was figuring >> a large /home partition. Likewise only one or two kernels max, so I >> figured a small /boot. A

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was figuring > a large /home partition. Likewise only one or two kernels max, so I > figured a small /boot. And finally, and this is really where I'm Why do you need a separate

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Duane Powers
Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > Hey Russell, > > > Friday, June 22, 2001, 11:07:37 AM, you wrote: > > RC> What exactly will that save you from? If the root FS gets messed up then > RC> having a separate /boot won't gain you much... > > I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot we

Re[4]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 11:07:37 AM, you wrote: RC> What exactly will that save you from? If the root FS gets messed up then RC> having a separate /boot won't gain you much... I was thinking the other way around actually. If /boot were to get messed up, it wouldn't affect /. RC>

Re: Re[2]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 June 2001 16:39, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > Friday, June 22, 2001, 9:17:12 AM, you wrote: > > RC> On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > >> This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was > >> figuring a large /home partition. Likewise only one

Re[2]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 9:17:12 AM, you wrote: RC> On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: >> This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was figuring >> a large /home partition. Likewise only one or two kernels max, so I >> figured a small /boot.

Re[2]: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey Russell, Friday, June 22, 2001, 9:17:12 AM, you wrote: RC> On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: >> This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was figuring >> a large /home partition. Likewise only one or two kernels max, so I >> figured a small /boot.

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 15 June 2001 16:13, Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: > This system would be used mostly for web-hosting, so I was figuring > a large /home partition. Likewise only one or two kernels max, so I > figured a small /boot. And finally, and this is really where I'm Why do you need a separate

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-15 Thread Erik Peter P. Abella
Hello Kevin, > should I create a separate /var Yes, you most definitely should. IMHO, whatever config you're going for, logs reside in /var by default in all the linux distros I've tried > used mostly for web-hosting > used as an IMAP/SMTP machine In your case, given that mail would resides by

Re: disk partition schemes

2001-06-15 Thread Erik Peter P. Abella
Hello Kevin, > should I create a separate /var Yes, you most definitely should. IMHO, whatever config you're going for, logs reside in /var by default in all the linux distros I've tried > used mostly for web-hosting > used as an IMAP/SMTP machine In your case, given that mail would resides by

disk partition schemes

2001-06-15 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey guys (and gals), I'm redoing a machine of mine. Was a Mandrake system, but now it's going to be a debian one ;) Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's really 40 there, but I run a hardware RAID 10). I also have half a gig of SDRAM (sure this wou

disk partition schemes

2001-06-15 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
Hey guys (and gals), I'm redoing a machine of mine. Was a Mandrake system, but now it's going to be a debian one ;) Basically, I have 20 gigs of space to tinker with (well, there's really 40 there, but I run a hardware RAID 10). I also have half a gig of SDRAM (sure this wo