Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread Jason Lim
Good procedure! - Original Message - From: "I. Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Upgrade a mail server > Hello Craig > > On 19 Feb 2002, at 10:38, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > i'd love to conv

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread Jason Lim
Good procedure! - Original Message - From: "I. Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Upgrade a mail server > Hello Craig > > On 19 Feb 2002, at 10:38, Craig Sanders wrote: > > >

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread brian moore
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 07:40:32PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 05:51:20PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > When I configured it to use hashed indexes to /etc/passwd (this was on > > AIX which does it much better than Linux) the load average dropped to > > between 0.5 and 4

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread brian moore
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 07:40:32PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 05:51:20PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > When I configured it to use hashed indexes to /etc/passwd (this was on > > AIX which does it much better than Linux) the load average dropped to > > between 0.5 and 4

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread I. Forbes
Hello Craig On 19 Feb 2002, at 10:38, Craig Sanders wrote: > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > mailboxes from mbox format to Maildir. I did this a while back. It is possible with very little

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread I. Forbes
Hello Craig On 19 Feb 2002, at 10:38, Craig Sanders wrote: > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > mailboxes from mbox format to Maildir. I did this a while back. It is possible with very littl

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 05:51:20PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > When I configured it to use hashed indexes to /etc/passwd (this was on > AIX which does it much better than Linux) the load average dropped to > between 0.5 and 4 (depending on the time of day), CPU usage was often > less than 100%, a

RE: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar
Title: RE: Upgrade a mail server     very interesing your comments.I am installing a box with postfix+courier-pop3+courier-imap. When woody gets stable state, I will upgrade my mailserver, anf of course, I will post you the results and problems ..     Thanks to all

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:38, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > > > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 > > > different domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1300 > > > users. Because the auth metho

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 05:51:20PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > When I configured it to use hashed indexes to /etc/passwd (this was on > AIX which does it much better than Linux) the load average dropped to > between 0.5 and 4 (depending on the time of day), CPU usage was often > less than 100%,

RE: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar
Title: RE: Upgrade a mail server     very interesing your comments.I am installing a box with postfix+courier-pop3+courier-imap. When woody gets stable state, I will upgrade my mailserver, anf of course, I will post you the results and problems ..     Thanks to all

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Alexander List
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Craig Sanders wrote: > the particular mail server that needs conversion has about 6000 users. > most of whom have very small mailboxes. some have obscenely large > mailboxes (200MB or more). last time i checked there was a total of > about 6GB in /var/spool/mail If you have

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:38, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > > > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 > > > different domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1300 > > > users. Because the auth meth

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Rich Puhek
Craig Sanders wrote: > > - configure postfix so that "deferred_transports = local" - this leaves >ALL local deliveries in the queue until i flush it manually while >still allowing the mail server to relay outbound mail to other >servers for my users. > > or > > - create Maildir/

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 09:21:16PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote: > You didn't state if you're an ISP or another institution. ISP.24/7 operation required. more precisely: it's not my ISP, i'm the senior system admin at an ISP. > > (*) it involves using semaphore files in each users homedir to >

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Rich Puhek
Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:02:38PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote: > > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > > > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > > > mailboxes from mbox format to Mai

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Alexander List
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Craig Sanders wrote: > the particular mail server that needs conversion has about 6000 users. > most of whom have very small mailboxes. some have obscenely large > mailboxes (200MB or more). last time i checked there was a total of > about 6GB in /var/spool/mail If you hav

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:02:38PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > > mailboxes from mbox format to Maildir. > > > > one of these days i'l

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Rich Puhek
Craig Sanders wrote: > > - configure postfix so that "deferred_transports = local" - this leaves >ALL local deliveries in the queue until i flush it manually while >still allowing the mail server to relay outbound mail to other >servers for my users. > > or > > - create Maildir/

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 09:21:16PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote: > You didn't state if you're an ISP or another institution. ISP.24/7 operation required. more precisely: it's not my ISP, i'm the senior system admin at an ISP. > > (*) it involves using semaphore files in each users homedir to >

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Rich Puhek
Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:02:38PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote: > > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > > > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > > > mailboxes from mbox format to Ma

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:02:38PM -0600, Rich Puhek wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > > mailboxes from mbox format to Maildir. > > > > one of these days i'

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Rich Puhek
Craig Sanders wrote: > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > mailboxes from mbox format to Maildir. > > one of these days i'll have the time to sit down and work out a good > solution to the prob

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:22:08PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:33, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 > > different domains, using virtu

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Rich Puhek
Craig Sanders wrote: > i'd love to convert it over to Maildir/ but haven't yet found any way > that doesn't involve many hours of downtime while converting the > mailboxes from mbox format to Maildir. > > one of these days i'll have the time to sit down and work out a good > solution to the pro

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:22:08PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:33, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 > > different domains, using virt

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-15 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > Hi all!! > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different > domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-15 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:33:49AM +0100, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > Hi all!! > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different > domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:53, Alexander List wrote: > > > This is becomming not scalable, and I want to start to use a mail > > > server with auth based on sql, using MySQL for example. I am thinking > > > in use a debian woody( I'll wait till woody becomes stable), with > > > sendmail as smtp serve

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:53, Alexander List wrote: > > > This is becomming not scalable, and I want to start to use a mail > > > server with auth based on sql, using MySQL for example. I am thinking > > > in use a debian woody( I'll wait till woody becomes stable), with > > > sendmail as smtp serv

RE: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar
Title: RE: Upgrade a mail server     Hi,     thanks to all of you for your good answers.     The reason to using MySQL is because is more easy to admin users and to implementing in the future web interfaces.. -Mensaje original- De: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Jason Lim
> > /etc/passwd should scale to 1300 users, using nscd should solve any problems > there. But chances are that changing how you look up user names won't make > any noticable difference in performance. > > The best way of killing performance on a POP server is using /var/spool/mail. > Use Maildir s

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Alexander List
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > > This is becomming not scalable, and I want to start to use a mail > > server with auth based on sql, using MySQL for example. I am thinking in > > use a debian woody( I'll wait till woody becomes stable), with sendmail as > > smtp server, but I am

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:33, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different > > domains, using virtual hosting), wit

RE: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar
Title: RE: Upgrade a mail server     Hi,     thanks to all of you for your good answers.     The reason to using MySQL is because is more easy to admin users and to implementing in the future web interfaces.. -Mensaje original- De: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Jason Lim
> > /etc/passwd should scale to 1300 users, using nscd should solve any problems > there. But chances are that changing how you look up user names won't make > any noticable difference in performance. > > The best way of killing performance on a POP server is using /var/spool/mail. > Use Maildir

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Alexander List
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > > This is becomming not scalable, and I want to start to use a mail > > server with auth based on sql, using MySQL for example. I am thinking in > > use a debian woody( I'll wait till woody becomes stable), with sendmail as > > smtp server, but I am

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:33, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different > > domains, using virtual hosting), wi

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:33, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different > domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1300 users. Because the > auth metho

Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar
Title: Upgrade a mail server     Hi all!!     I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1300 users. Because the auth method is based

Re: Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:33, Javier Castillo Alcibar wrote: > I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and > qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different > domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1300 users. Because the > auth meth

Upgrade a mail server

2002-02-14 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar
Title: Upgrade a mail server     Hi all!!     I have a debian 2.1 email server, with sendmail as smtp server, and qpopper as POP3 server. This box hosts several domains (about 100 different domains, using virtual hosting), with a total of 1300 users. Because the auth method is based