Re: Mail server

2003-03-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 19:16 2003-02-24 +0100 hat Russell Coker geschrieben: > >On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:34, Colin Ellis wrote: >The fastest drives (15000rpm) will take an average of 4ms for the disk to spin >to the correct location to start a transfer in addition to the seek times for >moving the heads. Th

Re: Mail server

2003-03-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 19:16 2003-02-24 +0100 hat Russell Coker geschrieben: > >On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:34, Colin Ellis wrote: >The fastest drives (15000rpm) will take an average of 4ms for the disk to spin >to the correct location to start a transfer in addition to the seek times for >moving the heads. Th

RE: Mail Server Authentication

2003-03-06 Thread Gregory Wood
l Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Mail Server Authentication Hi Teun, had a look at the link Postfix is compiled with SASL, and Cyrus with SAS

RE: Mail Server Authentication

2003-03-06 Thread Gregory Wood
l Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mail Server Authentication Hi Teun, had a look at the link Postfix is compiled with SASL, and Cyrus with SASL2 I

Re: Mail Server Authentication

2003-03-05 Thread andrew
Hi Teun, had a look at the link Postfix is compiled with SASL, and Cyrus with SASL2 I dont want to use 2 'db' files to store the same usernames and passwords, and as I said, I dont want them in Mysql or /etc/passwd - hmmm... was hoping to find a package that I wouldnt have to mainta

Re: Mail Server Authentication

2003-03-05 Thread andrew
Hi Teun, had a look at the link Postfix is compiled with SASL, and Cyrus with SASL2 I dont want to use 2 'db' files to store the same usernames and passwords, and as I said, I dont want them in Mysql or /etc/passwd - hmmm... was hoping to find a package that I wouldnt have to mainta

Re: Mail Server Authentication

2003-02-28 Thread teun
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Mail Server Authentication > Hi all, > > I am currently working on installing a new mail server for a small number of > users (50-100). > > I do NOT want the user

Re: Mail Server Authentication

2003-02-28 Thread teun
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Mail Server Authentication > Hi all, > > I am currently working on installing a new mail server for a small number of > users (50-100). > > I do

Re: Mail server

2003-02-25 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 10:16, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote: > [disclaimer: I am not a specialist in mail servers at all] > > I have installed James (check www.apache.org) on one machine and its > developers claim, if I remember correctly, to send several millions of > mails during their performan

Re: Mail server

2003-02-25 Thread Thomas Lamy
Russell Coker wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:34, Colin Ellis wrote: > > Email doesn't really need much processing, but does take > > surprisingly large amounts of disk space. > > Obviously such things differ depending on exactly who is > using the service and what they are doing. > > But my

Re: Mail server

2003-02-25 Thread Lacoste (Frisurf)
[disclaimer: I am not a specialist in mail servers at all] I have installed James (check www.apache.org) on one machine and its developers claim, if I remember correctly, to send several millions of mails during their performance testing. I found it really easy to administrate and I am using MySQL

Re: Mail server

2003-02-25 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 10:16, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote: > [disclaimer: I am not a specialist in mail servers at all] > > I have installed James (check www.apache.org) on one machine and its > developers claim, if I remember correctly, to send several millions of > mails during their performan

Re: Mail server

2003-02-25 Thread Thomas Lamy
Russell Coker wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:34, Colin Ellis wrote: > > Email doesn't really need much processing, but does take > > surprisingly large amounts of disk space. > > Obviously such things differ depending on exactly who is > using the service and what they are doing. > > But my

Re: Mail server

2003-02-25 Thread Lacoste (Frisurf)
[disclaimer: I am not a specialist in mail servers at all] I have installed James (check www.apache.org) on one machine and its developers claim, if I remember correctly, to send several millions of mails during their performance testing. I found it really easy to administrate and I am using MySQL

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:27:56AM -0600, Asher Densmore-Lynn wrote: > Can anyone give me any figures on how much machine I need to serve as a > mail server for N users? > > I appreciate that every server is unique, but I can't judge these things > for the life of me, and if I had baseline numbe

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:27:56AM -0600, Asher Densmore-Lynn wrote: > Can anyone give me any figures on how much machine I need to serve as a > mail server for N users? > > I appreciate that every server is unique, but I can't judge these things > for the life of me, and if I had baseline numbe

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Amaya
Lauchlin Wilkinson dijo: > As I said, the most cpu hungry app is the spam filtering. Try Amavis on top of that! ;-) -- .''`. Girl, you gotta change your crazy ways, you hear me? : :' :Crazy by Aerosmith `. `'Proudly running Debian G

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Lauchlin Wilkinson
We have one machine that is currently handleing about that many users. It runs Debian 3.0 stable, sendmail, spamassassin (if anyone has a better spam fillter let me know), imap and pop, and the load average is rarely above 0.7. Most of the load comes from spamassassin. Which seems to be normal.

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:59, Rich Puhek wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > > I have been considering modifying the Qmail and maildrop code to not use > > fsync() etc to allow more users per server (yes I know about the > > reliability issues, but there are lots of more important things to worry > > abou

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Amaya
Lauchlin Wilkinson dijo: > As I said, the most cpu hungry app is the spam filtering. Try Amavis on top of that! ;-) -- .''`. Girl, you gotta change your crazy ways, you hear me? : :' :Crazy by Aerosmith `. `'Proudly running Debian G

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Lauchlin Wilkinson
We have one machine that is currently handleing about that many users. It runs Debian 3.0 stable, sendmail, spamassassin (if anyone has a better spam fillter let me know), imap and pop, and the load average is rarely above 0.7. Most of the load comes from spamassassin. Which seems to be normal.

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:59, Rich Puhek wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > > I have been considering modifying the Qmail and maildrop code to not use > > fsync() etc to allow more users per server (yes I know about the > > reliability issues, but there are lots of more important things to worry > > abou

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Maarten Vink
- Original Message - From: "Russell Coker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Colin Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Mail server > > If a message delivery tak

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Rich Puhek
Russell Coker wrote: I have been considering modifying the Qmail and maildrop code to not use fsync() etc to allow more users per server (yes I know about the reliability issues, but there are lots of more important things to worry about). Are you using mboxes under /var/spool/mail, or are you

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Markus Schabel
Asher Densmore-Lynn wrote: Can anyone give me any figures on how much machine I need to serve as a mail server for N users? I appreciate that every server is unique, but I can't judge these things for the life of me, and if I had baseline numbers I could modify them to suit. \: I'm looking at

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:34, Colin Ellis wrote: > Email doesn't really need much processing, but does take surprisingly large > amounts of disk space. Obviously such things differ depending on exactly who is using the service and what they are doing. But my experience is that with modern disks a m

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread thing
Asher Densmore-Lynn wrote: Can anyone give me any figures on how much machine I need to serve as a mail server for N users? I appreciate that every server is unique, but I can't judge these things for the life of me, and if I had baseline numbers I could modify them to suit. \: I'm looking at

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:27, Asher Densmore-Lynn wrote: > Can anyone give me any figures on how much machine I need to serve as a > mail server for N users? > > I appreciate that every server is unique, but I can't judge these things > for the life of me, and if I had baseline numbers I could modify

Re: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Gabriel Granger
If its of any help, at my last firm, we had 1000 email domains all using different setup's their were 900 pop accounts checking their mail every 5 - 10 mins our set up was Sendmail 8.11 Debian 3.0 kernel 2.4.18 intel 550Mhz 256Mb Ram 40Gb Hd Machine load never above 0.7 Asher Densmore-Lynn wrot

RE: Mail server

2003-02-24 Thread Colin Ellis
Your question is certainly quite vague, but here are a few things to think about.. What mail delivery program are you thinking of using and are you planning on providing pop3 and/or imap service? Imap requires more processing power to display the mail folders, but it depends on the software again

Re: Mail server

2001-11-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 01:55, James wrote: > I'm going to be setting up a mail server (Exim + uwimapd + IMP webmail) > that will serve about 300-500 users. > > There will not be a major amount of traffic being put through it and was > wondering if anyone had any cost effective hardware recommendations

Re: Mail server

2001-11-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 01:55, James wrote: > I'm going to be setting up a mail server (Exim + uwimapd + IMP webmail) > that will serve about 300-500 users. > > There will not be a major amount of traffic being put through it and was > wondering if anyone had any cost effective hardware recommendations

Re: Mail server

2001-11-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
> I'm going to be setting up a mail server (Exim + uwimapd + IMP webmail) > that will serve about 300-500 users. > > There will not be a major amount of traffic being put through it and was > wondering if anyone had any cost effective hardware recommendations for > CPU/RAM/HD space? You can r

Re: Mail server

2001-11-03 Thread Jason Lim
How often will these people be checking email? ONLY through the webmail interface, or will they be checking by pop3, imap, etc.? If they start playing around with imap and storing large files and attachments on your server, the requirements will vary greatly. If you're doing a Hotmail setup (2Mb

Re: Mail server

2001-11-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
> I'm going to be setting up a mail server (Exim + uwimapd + IMP webmail) > that will serve about 300-500 users. > > There will not be a major amount of traffic being put through it and was > wondering if anyone had any cost effective hardware recommendations for > CPU/RAM/HD space? You can

Re: Mail server

2001-11-03 Thread Jason Lim
How often will these people be checking email? ONLY through the webmail interface, or will they be checking by pop3, imap, etc.? If they start playing around with imap and storing large files and attachments on your server, the requirements will vary greatly. If you're doing a Hotmail setup (2Mb

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-13 Thread JPS
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 02:42:03PM -0400, Gene Grimm wrote: > I don't recall if I have seen anything on this list regarding the issue of > scanning messages for viruses as they are processed by a Linux-based mail > server. If there is such a package, where can I find information on this > such as t

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-13 Thread JPS
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 02:42:03PM -0400, Gene Grimm wrote: > I don't recall if I have seen anything on this list regarding the issue of > scanning messages for viruses as they are processed by a Linux-based mail > server. If there is such a package, where can I find information on this > such as

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-09 Thread Andrew Tait
." Agent Smith - The Matrix - Original Message - From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian ISP Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Mail Server Virus Protection > Another scanner (which I haven't trie

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-08 Thread Andrew Tait
." Agent Smith - The Matrix - Original Message - From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian ISP Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Mail Server Virus Protection > Another scanner (which

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-06 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Another scanner (which I haven't tried yet) is exiscan: http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/ says: ... works together with the Exim MTA designed to be very easy to implement. Exiscan supports multithreaded unpacking and scanning of mail, with a configurable number of processes. Exiscan ha

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-06 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 10:49:45PM +0200, Stojan Rancic wrote: > > > Yeah, only it crashes on larger mails and fills up whole disk with some > > binary crap instead of report :-> > > What do you consider "larger mails" ? Anything that exceeds half of ulimit. (Even less in case of larger mails).

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-06 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 10:31:56PM +0200, Stojan Rancic wrote: > > >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > > Don't use AVP. It's a piece of crap. > > Actually, AVP with avcheck seem to work splendidly here, in > combination with Postfix, scanning quite a number of mails every day > an

Re: Mail Server Virus Protection

2001-10-06 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 02:42:03PM -0400, Gene Grimm wrote: > I don't recall if I have seen anything on this list regarding the issue of > scanning messages for viruses as they are processed by a Linux-based mail > server. If there is such a package, where can I find information on this > such as

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-17 Thread Robert Varga
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:28:40PM +0200, Robert Varga wrote: > > > Its documentation is a joke I think. It is 800 pages, but unusable for > > anything but reading it from the start, but if you want to search in it > > quickly and haven't read it before,

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:28:40PM +0200, Robert Varga wrote: > Its documentation is a joke I think. It is 800 pages, but unusable for > anything but reading it from the start, but if you want to search in it > quickly and haven't read it before, because you just want to put in > something, then i

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-16 Thread Robert Varga
Exim: Its documentation is a joke I think. It is 800 pages, but unusable for anything but reading it from the start, but if you want to search in it quickly and haven't read it before, because you just want to put in something, then it is unusable. Features: probably rich enough. Speed: much sl

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Irwan Hadi
At 01:03 PM 5/15/00 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000, Robert Varga wrote: Qmail isn't a regular package because it's got licence issues. Also Qmail is lacking in functionality when compared to Postfix, Sendmail, or probably any other Unix mail server. Qmail is fast and reliable, it'

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
>> >Use qmail and vpopmail. They are both packaged to debian, so there should >> >not be much of a problem for it. >> >> Qmail isn't a regular package because it's got licence issues. >> > >It is in debian in source package form, it can be built with one command, >so it is not a real problem I t

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Robert Varga
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2000, Robert Varga wrote: > >Use qmail and vpopmail. They are both packaged to debian, so there should > >not be much of a problem for it. > > Qmail isn't a regular package because it's got licence issues. > It is in debian in source

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Robert Varga wrote: >Use qmail and vpopmail. They are both packaged to debian, so there should >not be much of a problem for it. Qmail isn't a regular package because it's got licence issues. Also Qmail is lacking in functionality when compared to Postfix, Sendmail, or proba

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: >> For best performance have no direct TCP connections between your mail server >> and the outside world. Have the MX records point to an inbound-relay which >> sends the mail to the real server. > > hello :-) > > i pretty much dont get this part. w

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Robert Varga
Use qmail and vpopmail. They are both packaged to debian, so there should not be much of a problem for it. Vpopmail is a virtual domain pop3 server suited for serving as many as 23million POP3 mailboxes taking up only one system user, integrating with qmail and other qmail-extension software. It

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Chad A. Adlawan
> > For best performance have no direct TCP connections between your mail server > and the outside world. Have the MX records point to an inbound-relay which > sends the mail to the real server. hello :-) i pretty much dont get this part. what should be done is to point the MX record to

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Craig Sanders wrote: >On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 04:10:40PM +0800, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: >> does anybody have any URL's or docs w/ talks on how to build >> a mail server (both Exim and Sendmail are OK w/ me) with more >> than 65,000 users ? i.e., what are the availabl

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 04:10:40PM +0800, Chad A. Adlawan wrote: > does anybody have any URL's or docs w/ talks on how to build > a mail server (both Exim and Sendmail are OK w/ me) with more > than 65,000 users ? i.e., what are the available methods (and > what are the best ones) o

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-12 Thread Andrzej Filip
"Chad A. Adlawan" wrote: > i have this feeling that this has been asked b4 already but i cant locate > it in the archives. anyway : > > does anybody have any URL's or docs w/ talks on how to build a mail > server (both Exim and Sendmail are OK w/ me) with more than 65,000 users ? > i.e

Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users

2000-05-12 Thread Torsten Krueger
Hi, perhaps have a look at qmail-ldap. You can manage all your users including quota and all that in your ldap directory and everything runs with a single UID. And you can run a cluster of POP-3 machines. BTW: gmx.net is running on qmail and they have 500k+ users. Torsten On Fri, 12 May 2000,