Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-24 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:40:27PM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:41:38PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > My concern was that for a hotel with 1000s of rooms that a switch port for > > each room would be a very high cost, but what you described looks like an > > even higher inv

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-24 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:40:27PM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:41:38PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > My concern was that for a hotel with 1000s of rooms that a switch port for > > each room would be a very high cost, but what you described looks like an > > even higher in

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-24 Thread Ted Deppner
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:41:38PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > My concern was that for a hotel with 1000s of rooms that a switch port for > each room would be a very high cost, but what you described looks like an > even higher investment. Which makes my argument pretty much moot. The cost of a 96

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-23 Thread Ted Deppner
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:41:38PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > My concern was that for a hotel with 1000s of rooms that a switch port for > each room would be a very high cost, but what you described looks like an > even higher investment. Which makes my argument pretty much moot. The cost of a 9

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:30:18PM -0400, Jeff S Wheeler wrote: > > If you read up on Private LANs and don't grok it, I could provide an > explaination. The clue level on this thread has been higher than most on > this list (thankfully, stuff like this is why I remain subscribed) but this > is an

Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Machine Registration <> address of all ports you transmitted on the segment to the MAC address of a router someplace in the hotel, and forwarded the packets to the segment that router lived on. <>

RE: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
ribed) but this is an advanced networking topic most people have no experience with. - jsw -Original Message- From: Mike Fedyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:22 AM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Machine Registration On Fri, Ap

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:30:18PM -0400, Jeff S Wheeler wrote: > > If you read up on Private LANs and don't grok it, I could provide an > explaination. The clue level on this thread has been higher than most on > this list (thankfully, stuff like this is why I remain subscribed) but this > is a

Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
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RE: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
ribed) but this is an advanced networking topic most people have no experience with. - jsw -Original Message- From: Mike Fedyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Machine Registration On Fri, Apr 20,

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:28:54PM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > Hubs (shudder) and switches (even most Cisco stuff) would allow snooping, > break two 10.0.0.1 customers from working, broadcast collisions, gateway > and next hop collisions, etc... > > The concept is the customer is directly connecte

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:28:54PM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > Hubs (shudder) and switches (even most Cisco stuff) would allow snooping, > break two 10.0.0.1 customers from working, broadcast collisions, gateway > and next hop collisions, etc... > > The concept is the customer is directly connect

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:48:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, where, > when you plug into the building Network, and fire up Nutscrape, the > only thing you can get to is a page asking you register your machine > before you can ge

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:48:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, where, > when you plug into the building Network, and fire up Nutscrape, the > only thing you can get to is a page asking you register your machine > before you can g

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Ted Deppner
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:17:35AM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:32:03AM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > > Another huge component is automatic MAC and GatewayIP address discovery. > > The good systems allow you to use ANY settings on your laptop, DO NOT > > require you to use DH

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Ted Deppner
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:17:35AM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:32:03AM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > > Another huge component is automatic MAC and GatewayIP address discovery. > > The good systems allow you to use ANY settings on your laptop, DO NOT > > require you to use D

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:32:03AM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > Another huge component is automatic MAC and GatewayIP address discovery. > The good systems allow you to use ANY settings on your laptop, DO NOT > require you to use DHCP, and can allow multiple people who have 10.0.0.1 > as their ip ad

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Ted Deppner
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:48:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now I can't believe that this is so proprietary, but I've not seen > anything like this, even for $$$. Does anyone have an idea how they > do this, or, even better, have something like this working already? Another huge component

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:32:03AM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > Another huge component is automatic MAC and GatewayIP address discovery. > The good systems allow you to use ANY settings on your laptop, DO NOT > require you to use DHCP, and can allow multiple people who have 10.0.0.1 > as their ip a

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Ted Deppner
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:48:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now I can't believe that this is so proprietary, but I've not seen > anything like this, even for $$$. Does anyone have an idea how they > do this, or, even better, have something like this working already? Another huge componen

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread John Ferlito
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:56:09AM +0200, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, > > where, when you plug into the building Network, and fire up > > Nutscrape, the only thing you can

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Roger Abrahamsson
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, > where, when you plug into the building Network, and fire up > Nutscrape, the only thing you can get to is a page asking you > register your machine before you can get out on

Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread tps
Hi All, I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, where, when you plug into the building Network, and fire up Nutscrape, the only thing you can get to is a page asking you register your machine before you can get out on the Net. Now I can't believe that this is so proprietar

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread John Ferlito
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:56:09AM +0200, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, > > where, when you plug into the building Network, and fire up > > Nutscrape, the only thing you ca

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread Roger Abrahamsson
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, > where, when you plug into the building Network, and fire up > Nutscrape, the only thing you can get to is a page asking you > register your machine before you can get out on

Machine Registration

2001-04-20 Thread tps
Hi All, I've been asked to develop something like they have in Hotels, where, when you plug into the building Network, and fire up Nutscrape, the only thing you can get to is a page asking you register your machine before you can get out on the Net. Now I can't believe that this is so proprieta