Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:52:29PM +0900, Nathan Ollerenshaw wrote: > On Oct 1, 2003, at 10:51 PM, DI Peter Burgstaller wrote: > > >That is exactly the beauty of dump. I would have suggested dd for > >backup/restore but there > >you have the problem of identical fdisk settings. Dump/restore can

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Roman Medina
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:05:50 +0200, you wrote: >we're using a similar setup for some hosts and I have the best results >so far with dump/restore on ext2/ext3 partitions. Also using snapshots with dump/restore? Do you have any script which I could have a look? >I've even successfully recreated a

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread mimo
Looking through the debian package list I have noticed this a while ago: afbackup This is a client-server backup system offering several workstations a centralized backup to a special backup server. Backing up only one computer is easily possible, too. Any streaming device can be used for writin

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread roman
>> Finally, the 3rd stage: if you're going to save the backup files in an >> "non-trusty" machine, which kind of container / encryption software >> would you use? This would need to be easily scriptable, for automatize >> the backup task. My idea is to use something like BestCrypt: http://www.jeti

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Nathan Ollerenshaw
On Oct 1, 2003, at 10:51 PM, DI Peter Burgstaller wrote: That is exactly the beauty of dump. I would have suggested dd for backup/restore but there you have the problem of identical fdisk settings. Dump/restore can deal well with bigger partitions. Definitely use dump. Its much faster than anyt

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Alejandro Vartabedian
finally, if you dont trust the machine you must encrypt before transfer :-| lot of time, cpu and disk. another option could be sign the backup with md5 for example? this way you can trust the backup content. i think... Roman Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:25 -, y

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Alejandro Vartabedian
first of all, sorry G i can't understand your point. well, i can tell you about one of my experiences that can explain some points of your question. i had a machine with a scsi disk and linux installed, someday i started to experience some i/o errors on that disk so i have to migrate the instalati

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread DI Peter Burgstaller
On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 3:43 PM, Roman Medina wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:25 -, you wrote: which is the backup target media? Hard-disk. The idea is to have another logical partition for backups and then some scripts to upload/download to any secure site (I could use rsync over

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Roman Medina
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:42:25 -, you wrote: >which is the backup target media? Hard-disk. The idea is to have another logical partition for backups and then some scripts to upload/download to any secure site (I could use rsync over ssh or simply scp). But the uploading is a second step. Now I'

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alejandro Vartabedian wrote: the hole file system! That must be /dev/null ! G -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Alejandro Vartabedian
what about tar? it's a good tool, support device files, opened files, etc. the hole file system! which is the backup target media? good luck. pd: take a look in `man tar` Roman Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo: > > Hi, > > I'd like to know which tools&methods do you prefer for backing up a >

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread Dale E Martin
> I might be (and probably am) missing something, but wouldn't rsync (over > ssh) work? Does rsync handle device files correctly, hard links, sparse files, etc? (I'm not trying to troll, I honestly don't know if it handles all of these things.) I saw an article a while back comparing backup tool

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-10-01 Thread DI Peter Burgstaller
Hi, we're using a similar setup for some hosts and I have the best results so far with dump/restore on ext2/ext3 partitions. I've even successfully recreated a database server with mysql and postgresql servers running and using dump as a backup tool. No problems so far. - Cheers, Peter --

Re: Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Suehring
Hi, I might be (and probably am) missing something, but wouldn't rsync (over ssh) work? Steve On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:00:20AM +0200, Roman Medina wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to know which tools&methods do you prefer for backing up a > complete Linux install _in a production environment_

Hot-backup a complete Debian install

2003-09-30 Thread Roman Medina
Hi, I'd like to know which tools&methods do you prefer for backing up a complete Linux install _in a production environment_, i.e., _without having to shut down the machine or unmount partitions_. The machine needs to be always alive and it will be remotely administered. I'd like to hear your