Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-18 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Lucas Albers said: > I have recently started the process of switching my computers from redhat > to debian. > I would very much appreciate step by step directions for creating a local > repository for redistribution of kernel packages and locally built > packages. Just

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-18 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Lucas Albers said: > I have recently started the process of switching my computers from redhat > to debian. > I would very much appreciate step by step directions for creating a local > repository for redistribution of kernel packages and locally built > packages. Just

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-16 Thread Fred Whipple
Hi Everyone, I just wanted to say "thank you" for all your thoughts on this topic. Over the past several days, I've received so many replies to the list and individually that I've given up on discussing each one with the author :-) I think it's fair to say that we're approaching this problem o

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-16 Thread Fred Whipple
Hi Everyone, I just wanted to say "thank you" for all your thoughts on this topic. Over the past several days, I've received so many replies to the list and individually that I've given up on discussing each one with the author :-) I think it's fair to say that we're approaching this problem

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-16 Thread Lucas Albers
Robert Waldner said: > Another advantage is that there's no "integrated" admin-tool which > will destroy your precious hand-crafted config files, no "yast" or > "suseconfig" or somesuch. The downside to that is that you have to > know how to use an editor, of course, and there's mostly no "setu

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-16 Thread Lucas Albers
Matt Wehland said: > So you just install a stable system, keep up with the security updates, > build > your own local repository (plenty of ways to do this) and build the few > packages that you need newer versions of. > This is what I am doing (just got apt-proxy working and it's great). > This g

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-16 Thread Lucas Albers
Robert Waldner said: > Another advantage is that there's no "integrated" admin-tool which > will destroy your precious hand-crafted config files, no "yast" or > "suseconfig" or somesuch. The downside to that is that you have to > know how to use an editor, of course, and there's mostly no "setu

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-16 Thread Lucas Albers
Matt Wehland said: > So you just install a stable system, keep up with the security updates, > build > your own local repository (plenty of ways to do this) and build the few > packages that you need newer versions of. > This is what I am doing (just got apt-proxy working and it's great). > This g

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-15 Thread Nate Duehr
On Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004, at 20:55 America/Denver, Rod Rodolico wrote: I run a small IPP. I believe, there is only one package I use that is not available via Debian, RT from bestpractical.com (it may be there, but I haven't found it). I do not recall any other packages I use that are not avail

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-15 Thread Nate Duehr
On Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004, at 20:55 America/Denver, Rod Rodolico wrote: I run a small IPP. I believe, there is only one package I use that is not available via Debian, RT from bestpractical.com (it may be there, but I haven't found it). I do not recall any other packages I use that are not avail

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 09:55:04PM -0600, Rod Rodolico wrote: > > 2.) A related reason we used Red Hat was that practically anything you > > could want to use was pre-packaged in a simple to install RPM. And they > > were typically pretty high quality RPM's, and very often well maintained. > > Do

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 09:55:04PM -0600, Rod Rodolico wrote: > > 2.) A related reason we used Red Hat was that practically anything you > > could want to use was pre-packaged in a simple to install RPM. And they > > were typically pretty high quality RPM's, and very often well maintained. > > Do

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-15 Thread Rod Rodolico
Looks like everyone else has had their say, and I agree with all of it. But, I'll throw in my two cents. > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a few things relating to the > possibility of our company switching distributions from Red Hat to > Debian. As most folks already k

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-15 Thread Rod Rodolico
Looks like everyone else has had their say, and I agree with all of it. But, I'll throw in my two cents. > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a few things relating to the > possibility of our company switching distributions from Red Hat to > Debian. As most folks already k

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Alex Borges
Boy, are u gonna get answers El mié, 14-01-2004 a las 08:56, Fred Whipple escribió: > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a few things relating to the > possibility of our company switching distributions from Red Hat to > Debian. As most folks already know, Red Hat h

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Alex Borges
Boy, are u gonna get answers El mié, 14-01-2004 a las 08:56, Fred Whipple escribió: > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a few things relating to the > possibility of our company switching distributions from Red Hat to > Debian. As most folks already know, Red Hat h

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Fred Whipple said: > 1.) One of the biggest reasons we went with Red Hat many years ago was > RPM. Of course I know that Debian has a package system, and there're > constant arguments about which is better, if either. What I wonder, > though, is how they compare f

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Fred Whipple said on Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 09:56:35AM -0500: > 1.) One of the biggest reasons we went with Red Hat many years ago was > RPM. Of course I know that Debian has a package system, and there're > constant arguments about which is better, if either. What I wonder, > though, is how th

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Wehland
A few things that I haven't seen mentioned yet: If you decide to run stable, but want just some latest and gratest software you can normally download the latest Debianized source and compile you own pacakges against stable. There are also plenty of places on the net to get backported packages, b

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Fred Whipple said: > 1.) One of the biggest reasons we went with Red Hat many years ago was > RPM. Of course I know that Debian has a package system, and there're > constant arguments about which is better, if either. What I wonder, > though, is how they compare f

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Fred Whipple said on Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 09:56:35AM -0500: > 1.) One of the biggest reasons we went with Red Hat many years ago was > RPM. Of course I know that Debian has a package system, and there're > constant arguments about which is better, if either. What I wonder, > though, is how th

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Wehland
A few things that I haven't seen mentioned yet: If you decide to run stable, but want just some latest and gratest software you can normally download the latest Debianized source and compile you own pacakges against stable. There are also plenty of places on the net to get backported packages, b

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:56:35 EST, Fred Whipple writes: I'll answer just the points I have opinions/knowledge on. >2.) A related reason we used Red Hat was that practically anything you >could want to use was pre-packaged in a simple to install RPM. And they >were typically pretty high qualit

RE: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Dan Ros
> -Original Message- > From: Fred Whipple [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 January 2004 14:57 > To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org > Subject: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat) > > > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to get some of your though

Re: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:56:35 EST, Fred Whipple writes: I'll answer just the points I have opinions/knowledge on. >2.) A related reason we used Red Hat was that practically anything you >could want to use was pre-packaged in a simple to install RPM. And they >were typically pretty high qualit

Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Fred Whipple
Hi Everyone, I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a few things relating to the possibility of our company switching distributions from Red Hat to Debian. As most folks already know, Red Hat has drastically changed their strategy, and we ultimately must make *some* relatively drastic change

RE: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Dan Ros
> -Original Message- > From: Fred Whipple [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 January 2004 14:57 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat) > > > Hi Everyone, > > I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a

Considering Debian (currently using Red Hat)

2004-01-14 Thread Fred Whipple
Hi Everyone, I'd like to get some of your thoughts on a few things relating to the possibility of our company switching distributions from Red Hat to Debian. As most folks already know, Red Hat has drastically changed their strategy, and we ultimately must make *some* relatively drastic chang