Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:27:27AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thursday 09 December 2004 01:12, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the log file noise issue is important to me - i've recently started > > monitoring mail.log and adding iptables rules to block smtp connections i also w

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:27:27AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thursday 09 December 2004 01:12, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the log file noise issue is important to me - i've recently started > > monitoring mail.log and adding iptables rules to block smtp connections > > from

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 09 December 2004 01:12, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the log file noise issue is important to me - i've recently started > monitoring mail.log and adding iptables rules to block smtp connections > from client IPs that commit various spammish-looking crimes against my > sys

RE: MailScanner with Sendmail

2004-12-08 Thread Penbrock
Thanks alot I now have MailScanner scanning all my messages :). How ever I have one minor(?) problem, sendmail movers messages to the mqueue.in , MailScanner scans them and moves them to the /mqueue like it should,... but the messages just sit there. Do I now need to change procmail? -Origin

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 03:38:36PM -0700, Michael Loftis wrote: > --On Thursday, December 09, 2004 01:12 +1100 Craig Sanders <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >if it's a false positive, the sender will get a bounce from their MTA and > >they can fix the problem or route around it. IMO, that's

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:41:12PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > Received: from [217.226.195.183] by web60309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, > > > 29 Nov 2004 19:12:36 CET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > SpamAssassin looks at all the headers. If this is a good choice or not > is

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, December 08, 2004 16:04 +0200 Ian Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 08 December 2004 15:00, Russell Coker wrote: I agree that we don't want to be nice to spammers. But there is also the issue of being nice in the case of false-positives. I think, that a permanent er

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Thursday, December 09, 2004 01:12 +1100 Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: if it's a false positive, the sender will get a bounce from their MTA and they can fix the problem or route around it. IMO, that's far nicer to legit senders than them not knowing that their mail isn't being d

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 23:56 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > Yahoo server IP address space should not be in a dialup class. If that > happens then notify the person maintaining the dialup-list that you use that > they have an inaccuracy. This is incorrect when you look at the headers. > > Receive

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 15:30 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org > opm.blitzed.org > But now I have removed all exept the first two. "spamhaus" > catchs more then 50% of my spams and "abuseat" around 10%. > The rest is done by "Blacklists" and spamassassin. Spamhaus XBL i

information request

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Bravo
Hello, the company I am working for is currently looking for Debian-friendly hosting (colocation) companies operating in China, Indonesia and India, more specifically in Beijing, Guangzhou, Jakarta and Mumbai. These can be different companies, of course. The important points are: - Debian-frien

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-12-05 10:54:03, schrieb Marek Podmaka: > Hello debian-isp, > > which blacklists do you use to block spam emails on production > boxes? I use relays.ordb.org and list.dsbl.org and now I have read > about Spamhaus SBL and XBL on their website. What are your > experiences with it? I

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Ian Forbes
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 15:00, Russell Coker wrote: > I agree that we don't want to be nice to spammers. But there is also > the issue of being nice in the case of false-positives. I think, that a permanent error is the best response for a false-positive. The sender will then receive a b

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:00:42AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:16, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Craig, why do you think it's undesirable to do so? > > > > because i dont want the extra retry traffic. i want spammers to take FOAD > > as an answer

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:16, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Craig, why do you think it's undesirable to do so? > > because i dont want the extra retry traffic. i want spammers to take FOAD > as an answer, and i dont want to welcome them with a pleasant "please try > again lat

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 20:32, daniele becchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Odd, since we don't see this. And when it does happen to 'big' mail > > senders it's never AOL for one (they're on the whitelist). And it's > > totally automatic so if they do end up on it's usually for less than

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread Volker Tanger
Greetings! On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:25:05 +1100 Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you ignore really stupid annoyances like the fact that it can't > reject a message at the SMTP level, it *always* accepts and then > bounces it". Current mailstats on my private server (postfix) tell me:

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:32 +0100 daniele becchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: if i would have used rbl checks in postfix instead of spamassim i would never receive that mail, right? the tracked ip is of course 217.226.195.186 and not the yahoo ip 216.109.118.120. Or i didn't understan

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread daniele becchi
Michael Loftis wrote: --On Monday, December 06, 2004 09:34 +0100 Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Various AOL mailservers, the Debian mailservers, and other servers sending out lots of regular mail get listed in spamcop regularly, so my recommendation (and that o

Re: Debian on a Dell PowerEdge 2800 server

2004-12-08 Thread Emmanuel Lacour
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Ian Forbes wrote: > Hi All > Look here: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers and here: http://linux.dell.com/ -- Emmanuel Lacour Easter-eggs 44-46 rue de l'Ouest - 75014 Paris - France -

Debian on a Dell PowerEdge 2800 server

2004-12-08 Thread Ian Forbes
Hi All I have been asked to advise on the installation of Debian on a new Dell server. The client is keen on a "PowerEdge 2800". From their spec this has a "PERC4" SCSI raid controller on board. From what I can see "PERC3" used an Adaptec chipset which is well supported in the latest kernels.

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 07:51:13PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 08 December 2004 09:55, Michael Loftis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I have to agree with that statement. For us it suits our needs very > > well. I don't mind handling the extra retry traffic if it means > > legitima

Re: blacklists

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 09:55, Michael Loftis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to agree with that statement. For us it suits our needs very well. > I don't mind handling the extra retry traffic if it means legitimate mail > on a 'grey/pink' host is just temporarily rejected or delayed wh

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.08.0425 +0100]: > yes, but it's generally better to pick a good horse rather than > a three-legged, half-blind bad-tempered mule that is well past > retirement age. rofl! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 19:18, "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Qmail is not in Debian. Even the qmail-src package is no longer in > > Debian. This makes it significantly more difficult to manage Qmail Debian > > servers. > > Well if you don't like compiling from src, then head

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 19:06 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 08 December 2004 14:35, "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hmm, meaning Hotmail, Yahoo and others run three legged mules ? :-) > > It's just a pity that hotmail and yahoo have so many users that it's > inconvenie

Re: a couple of postfix questions

2004-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 14:35, "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm, meaning Hotmail, Yahoo and others run three legged mules ? :-) It's just a pity that hotmail and yahoo have so many users that it's inconvenient to block them entirely. > No worries, this list is about Debian