Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:00:57 +0200, Marcin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:29:32PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:29:32 +1000, Russell wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Increasing the number of machines increases the probability of

Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"?

2004-10-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Russell Coker wrote: > Getting servers that each have 200G or 300G of storage is easy. Local Make it a few TBs... > though). Having multiple back-end servers with local disks reduces the risks > (IMHO). There's less cables for idiots to trip over or otherwise break It d

Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"?

2004-10-16 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:41:43PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > There's less cables for idiots to trip over or otherwise break > (don't ask), I dare to ask :-) Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marcin.owsiany.pl/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 09:29:32PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Increasing the number of machines increases the probability of one > > > > > machine

Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"?

2004-10-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:08, Paul Dwerryhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 06:56:21PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > The machines were all running 2.4.2x last time I was there, but they > > may be moving to 2.6.x now. > > All the stores, relays and proxies are still on 2.4.x,

Re: Documentation of big "mail systems"?

2004-10-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 02:02, Christoph Moench-Tegeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ## Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > So, now we would like Russel to explain why he does not like SAN. > > > > He probably doesn't advocate using SAN instead of local disks if you do > > not have

Re: Can we build a proper email cluster? (was: Re: Why is debian.org email so unreliable?)

2004-10-16 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:33, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:19, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Increasing the number of machines increases the probability of one > > > > machine failing for any given time period. Also it makes it more > > > > diff