Re: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found

2004-02-19 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Friday 20 February 2004 07.36, Arnd Vehling wrote: [app requires new libc] > Can anyone clue me in on how to get those two forsaken libs cleanly > installed on a debian stable system so this damn binary will run? Is it an option to run that app in a chroot? cheers -- vbi -- Today is Sweetm

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 19 February 2004 23.28, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:34:52PM +0100, Bj?rnar Bj?rgum Larsen wrote: > > For example, I'd like comments on > > http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/Reviews/UnixMTSes/postfix.ht > >ml > > a collection of lies, half-truths, and mis

RE: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found

2004-02-19 Thread Daniel Hooper
Arnd, I don't know if it would work or not, but id be looking at running it in a chroot jail or possibly even UML. This way it would only require the libs it needs and the rest of the system should be fairly stable and it will make it easy to upgrade the package at a later date or the libs/prerequ

version `GLIBC_2.3' not found

2004-02-19 Thread Arnd Vehling
Hi, ok, this is somewhat OT but anyway.. I have a binary (payware, no source) i need to run which needs bleeding edge libs which are only available in debian testing. As the prog needs to run on a production system i dont want to upgrade to the testing distribution. The libs in question are: l

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread John Keimel
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:22:54PM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > I take this to mean that there are no binaries to download from postifx.org > itself - all binaries are made by integrators/vendors. This does not mean > that making binaries is not allowed. Binaries are, ind

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:34:52PM +0100, Bj?rnar Bj?rgum Larsen wrote: > For example, I'd like comments on > http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/Reviews/UnixMTSes/postfix.html a collection of lies, half-truths, and mistruths. the best that can be said about this document is that the aut

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 19 February 2004 21.56, Dan MacNeil wrote: > > http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/Reviews/UnixMTSes/postfix.ht > >ml > > says at the very bottom: > > Postfix is only available in source form, > not as precompiled or prepackaged binaries. > There is a list of

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:34:52PM +0100, Bj?rnar Bj?rgum Larsen wrote: > [3] Craig Sanders wrote: > > ps: qmail is a bad idea. postfix is better. > > Your conclusion may be right, but the arguments are missing. Would you please > share? search the archives of this list. MTA comparisons have b

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 11:34, Bjørnar Bjørgum Larsen wrote: > I am in the process of choosing between postfix and qmail for our mail relays. I've > not decided yet. However, I am surprised by the fact that many people who prefer > postfix, also enjoy posting unqualified[0] statements[1][2][3] abou

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 19 February 2004 21.34, Bjørnar Bjørgum Larsen wrote: > I am in the process of choosing between postfix and qmail for our mail > relays. I've not decided yet. Matter of taste - I find postfix' log files are orders of magnitude easier to read than qmail's. Also matter of taste - I cou

Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Dan MacNeil
> http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/Reviews/UnixMTSes/postfix.html says at the very bottom: Postfix is only available in source form, not as precompiled or prepackaged binaries. There is a list of FTP sites that hold the source tarball on the official we

qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-19 Thread Bjørnar Bjørgum Larsen
I am in the process of choosing between postfix and qmail for our mail relays. I've not decided yet. However, I am surprised by the fact that many people who prefer postfix, also enjoy posting unqualified[0] statements[1][2][3] about qmail. If anyone have properly grounded views, please share!

Re: Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread W.D.McKinney
>-Original Message- >From: Rich Puhek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 04:44 PM >To: 'W.D.McKinney' >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Bayes filter at ISPs > > > >W.D.McKinney wrote: > >> >> We liked SA but was very tired of the perl usage on the MTA. Se we >

Re: Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread Lance Levsen
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 06:09, Adam ENDRODI wrote: > I suppose many of you use Bayesian spamfilters at the ISP level. > I'd like to ask how do you teach it to separate ham and spam > correctly? In particular, how do I select a representative set > of ham and spam? Is it a good idea to deploy bogof

Re: Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread Rich Puhek
W.D.McKinney wrote: We liked SA but was very tired of the perl usage on the MTA. Se we searched and found the Barracuda. Now we have Bayesian and more and a very nice solution, not on the MTA. I have not looked back. Regards, Dee Why didn't you use spamc/spamd? Allows moving the perl (and all

Re: Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 03:09, Adam ENDRODI wrote: > I'm considering replacing the current SpamAssasin to a true > Bayasian filter (bogofilter, actually) on a mail server, because > in personal daily usage, it has proven to be a better (faster > and more accurate) solution for me. > > I suppose many

Re: Sendmail>MailScanner>SpamAssassin:WebMin

2004-02-19 Thread Dave's List Addy
On 2/18/04 10:20 PM, "Martin Foster" wrote: > > apt-get -t unstable source mailscanner (/etc/apt/sources.list has stable > deb sources, and unstable deb-src entries) > cd mailscanner-4.26.7 > dch -i > vi debian/rules > vi debian/control > make -f debian/rules clean > make -f debian/rules binary

Re: Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 19 February 2004 13.09, Adam ENDRODI wrote: > I'd like to ask how do you teach it to separate ham and spam > correctly? In particular, how do I select a representative set > of ham and spam? Is it a good idea to deploy bogofilter for an > entire organization at all? Run spamassassin

Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread Adam ENDRODI
I'm considering replacing the current SpamAssasin to a true Bayasian filter (bogofilter, actually) on a mail server, because in personal daily usage, it has proven to be a better (faster and more accurate) solution for me. I suppose many of you use Bayesian spamfilters at the ISP level. I'd like

Re: HTTP latency ..urgent

2004-02-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:53:06PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 41 lines which said: > Another piece of software which will do this and much more is called > smokeping, I know, smokeping is a graphing layer above other programs (including echoping). -- To