On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:11:00PM +1000, Jeremy Lunn wrote:
>
> I'd consider it to be generally a bad idea to have user writable
> directories on the same partition as /. Therefore I always make sure
> that I at least have partitions for:
> /
> /tmp
> /home
> /var
Heh. That's the same scheme I
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:58:03PM -0600, junkyjunk.com wrote:
> 50 domains on a 60gig disk should be NO problem. There should not even
> be a need to partition the disk, except for / and swap. Why are you
> trying to use partitions?
>
> 50 domains with web and mail should run you probably aroun
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:11:00PM +1000, Jeremy Lunn wrote:
>
> I'd consider it to be generally a bad idea to have user writable
> directories on the same partition as /. Therefore I always make sure
> that I at least have partitions for:
> /
> /tmp
> /home
> /var
Heh. That's the same scheme I
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:29, Jones, Steven wrote:
> umcompaq dl320s for 1 wont do it. Look at some bioses, i would be
Compaq is history.
OK, HP whatever, the dl320 is a current model, it doesnt have the capability
to boot anything but 0x80 without a floppy.
> pleased if you could point me at so
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:58:03PM -0600, junkyjunk.com wrote:
> 50 domains on a 60gig disk should be NO problem. There should not even
> be a need to partition the disk, except for / and swap. Why are you
> trying to use partitions?
>
> 50 domains with web and mail should run you probably aroun
I am having problems to access my apache server from the outside world. From
within the LAN (behind a router) all works fine; (the problem is not the
router!, I disconnected the router and connected the machine directly out to
conduct the tests) I suspect that it has to do with my network
configura
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:29, Jones, Steven wrote:
> umcompaq dl320s for 1 wont do it. Look at some bioses, i would be
Compaq is history.
> pleased if you could point me at some machines that can, ive not found one
A cheap clone motherboard that I bought from a local computer fair three years
a
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:29, Jones, Steven wrote:
> umcompaq dl320s for 1 wont do it. Look at some bioses, i would be
Compaq is history.
OK, HP whatever, the dl320 is a current model, it doesnt have the capability
to boot anything but 0x80 without a floppy.
> pleased if you could point me at so
umcompaq dl320s for 1 wont do it. Look at some bioses, i would be
pleased if you could point me at some machines that can, ive not found one
yet. Maybe you should actually try it? have you? so far Ive not found a box
that can boot off a different hd reliably if at all, Ive spent time on this
as
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 06:52, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> Something just occurred to me. A lot of systems will have one (logical)
> disk, either physical or as a RAID-5 or RAID-1 set.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if you could interleave multiple filesystems on the
> same block device? I.e. instead of giving o
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:00, Jones, Steven wrote:
> You cant normally boot off software raid if the primary disk fails on
> Intel.
Sure you can. Modern BIOSs have options for booting from a secondary disk.
If you setup LILO correctly then the most you should have to do is
reconfigure the BIOS to
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:29, Jones, Steven wrote:
> umcompaq dl320s for 1 wont do it. Look at some bioses, i would be
Compaq is history.
> pleased if you could point me at some machines that can, ive not found one
A cheap clone motherboard that I bought from a local computer fair three years
a
umcompaq dl320s for 1 wont do it. Look at some bioses, i would be
pleased if you could point me at some machines that can, ive not found one
yet. Maybe you should actually try it? have you? so far Ive not found a box
that can boot off a different hd reliably if at all, Ive spent time on this
as
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 06:52, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> Something just occurred to me. A lot of systems will have one (logical)
> disk, either physical or as a RAID-5 or RAID-1 set.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if you could interleave multiple filesystems on the
> same block device? I.e. instead of giving o
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:00, Jones, Steven wrote:
> You cant normally boot off software raid if the primary disk fails on
> Intel.
Sure you can. Modern BIOSs have options for booting from a secondary disk.
If you setup LILO correctly then the most you should have to do is
reconfigure the BIOS to
You cant normally boot off software raid if the primary disk fails on Intel.
So hardware raid for boot stuff. for data software raid is fine, in fact
seems to do rather well.
Its quite possible to fill /var and lock a server up to the point access is
not possible. Now I have to admit I have only s
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 09:28:36AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> Partitioning your data across disks is important, but IMHO partitioning
> a single disk is useless. Enforcing quota by splitting a disk in two,
> with all the seek time it wastes, is an unreasonably expensive way to do
> it.
You cant normally boot off software raid if the primary disk fails on Intel.
So hardware raid for boot stuff. for data software raid is fine, in fact
seems to do rather well.
Its quite possible to fill /var and lock a server up to the point access is
not possible. Now I have to admit I have only s
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 09:28:36AM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> Partitioning your data across disks is important, but IMHO partitioning
> a single disk is useless. Enforcing quota by splitting a disk in two,
> with all the seek time it wastes, is an unreasonably expensive way to do
> it.
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:46, Andrew Miehs wrote:
> hmmm.. Isn't it better to try and have swap in the middle of the disk? That
> way you always have about the same access time? Problem is, just because I
That may be the case for sporadic swap access (this is really difficult to
benchmark however).
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:20, Jones, Steven wrote:
> I would strongly disagree, partitioning is very important. Logging should
> be separated out so that a full /var wont stop logging in.
How does a full /var stop people logging in? I just did a quick test and
/bin/login permits logging in for non-r
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:46, Andrew Miehs wrote:
> hmmm.. Isn't it better to try and have swap in the middle of the disk? That
> way you always have about the same access time? Problem is, just because I
That may be the case for sporadic swap access (this is really difficult to
benchmark however).
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 14:20, Jones, Steven wrote:
> I would strongly disagree, partitioning is very important. Logging should
> be separated out so that a full /var wont stop logging in.
How does a full /var stop people logging in? I just did a quick test and
/bin/login permits logging in for non-r
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From: "CaT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mimo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Big hard drive - not recognised
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:14:19AM +0100, mimo wrote:
> > This is on..
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> > Linux
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From: "CaT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mimo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Big hard drive - not recognised
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:14:19AM +0100, mimo wrote:
> > This is on..
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
Greetings!
> ++ 21/03/03 14:44 +0200 - Gideon Oosthuysen:
>
> >I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk
> >usage / memory usage on all my different
> >servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use
> >for that ?
For displaying you can use Nagios
Thanks for the help but both testing and unstable are using 4.1.2.
It appears my next choice is getting source. Which gets back to my original
question, what impact will that have on my box?
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From: Peter An. Zyumbilev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01,
Greetings!
> ++ 21/03/03 14:44 +0200 - Gideon Oosthuysen:
>
> >I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk
> >usage / memory usage on all my different
> >servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use
> >for that ?
For displaying you can use Nagios
On Friday 21 of March 2003 13:44, Gideon Oosthuysen wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk usage /
> memory usage on all my different
> servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use for
> that ?
> I dont want to have to instal
++ 21/03/03 14:44 +0200 - Gideon Oosthuysen:
>Hi all
Hi Gideon
>I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk usage /
>memory usage on all my different
>servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use for
>that ?
What we do here is :
- install/configu
Thanks for the help but both testing and unstable are using 4.1.2.
It appears my next choice is getting source. Which gets back to my original
question, what impact will that have on my box?
-Original Message-
From: Peter An. Zyumbilev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01,
Hi all
I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk usage /
memory usage on all my different
servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use for
that ?
I dont want to have to install a webserver on all the servers and link to
each of their pages
Thanks
On Friday 21 of March 2003 13:44, Gideon Oosthuysen wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk usage /
> memory usage on all my different
> servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use for
> that ?
> I dont want to have to instal
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Hi
I think I've found a bug in IMP Debian package.
When I saved "Full Name" on preferences, IMP added a "<" to the end of the
full name. Then, when I sent a message, the "From:" appeared something like
that:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I lo
On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:14 PM [GMT+0800=SGT],
mimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been looking through the kernel mailing list but
> couldn't find anything on this. I have two big IDE harddrives
> in the machine - 200 Gig each.
>
> so the kernel detects it as 137 MB only
ATA limitatio
++ 21/03/03 14:44 +0200 - Gideon Oosthuysen:
>Hi all
Hi Gideon
>I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk usage /
>memory usage on all my different
>servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use for
>that ?
What we do here is :
- install/configu
okay - I just read:
"For large IDE disks (over 137 GB): make sure your kernel is
2.4.19/2.5.3 or later."
in the Large Disk HOWTO http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk-1.html
Sorry - this works fine
Michael
mimo wrote:
I have been looking through the kernel mailing list but couldn't find
an
Hi all
I would like to collect statistics like uptime / system load / disk usage /
memory usage on all my different
servers and display it on my webserver is there any program i can use for
that ?
I dont want to have to install a webserver on all the servers and link to
each of their pages
Thanks
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:14:19AM +0100, mimo wrote:
> This is on..
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> Linux blue 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
> unknown GNU/Linux
>
> Any ideas?
I think your kernel is pre-137MB barrier fix (not too sure as to the
exact version this
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 11:24, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
> If you say partitioning wastes a lot of seek time (which I did not consider
> when I decided partitioning), I think I should evaluate if it's worth to
> waste this time for security or if (as it seems, and as you say) it's not
I have been looking through the kernel mailing list but couldn't find
anything on this. I have two big IDE harddrives in the machine - 200 Gig
each.
dmesg:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE co
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Heh, this is always an option, but it's not what I were asking for ;)
Mi question is if there is any way of changing the language without
configuring (I suppose not), in order to use the official deb package. If I
build the package (which is the last
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Hi
I think I've found a bug in IMP Debian package.
When I saved "Full Name" on preferences, IMP added a "<" to the end of the
full name. Then, when I sent a message, the "From:" appeared something like
that:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I lo
It's risky, but you could run apache as root (or suexec the cgi to root)
and then within the script itself do a setuid and seteuid. Since apache is
forking and execing the cgi itself, you should be able to use setuid (the
same way login and ssh does when a user logs into the system). Within perl
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I said I'd trust on kernel quota, but not on proftd and qmail quota.
Anyway, in kernel quota there is some human factor (you can change quotas
size) and human factor is not reliable (even less if I'm this factor :P).
If you say partitioning wastes a
On Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:14 PM [GMT+0800=SGT],
mimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been looking through the kernel mailing list but
> couldn't find anything on this. I have two big IDE harddrives
> in the machine - 200 Gig each.
>
> so the kernel detects it as 137 MB only
ATA limitatio
lsattr /usr/bin/du - chances are it was made immutable ('i' attribute).
Matt.
- Original Message -
From: "Brad Lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roger Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: apt-get dist-upgrade problem
> First thing I would be d
Hello Dustin
On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:07, Dustin Douglas wrote:
> I don't know of anything that does everything that you want, but a
> good starting point might be the apache suexec docs. For apache 1.3.x
> they can be found at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/suexec.html
>
> Implementing the desired fun
okay - I just read:
"For large IDE disks (over 137 GB): make sure your kernel is
2.4.19/2.5.3 or later."
in the Large Disk HOWTO http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk-1.html
Sorry - this works fine
Michael
mimo wrote:
I have been looking through the kernel mailing list but couldn't find
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:15:51AM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
> If no user can fill up the disk, logs can. At least I'd put /var/log in a
> different partition, but anyway I'd partition the disk just in case quota
> systems fail. I think it's not a good idea to trust on ftp and mail s
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:14:19AM +0100, mimo wrote:
> This is on..
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> Linux blue 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
> unknown GNU/Linux
>
> Any ideas?
I think your kernel is pre-137MB barrier fix (not too sure as to the
exact version this
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 11:24, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
> If you say partitioning wastes a lot of seek time (which I did not consider
> when I decided partitioning), I think I should evaluate if it's worth to
> waste this time for security or if (as it seems, and as you say) it's not.
I think co
I have been looking through the kernel mailing list but couldn't find
anything on this. I have two big IDE harddrives in the machine - 200 Gig
each.
dmesg:
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE c
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I disagree.
If no user can fill up the disk, logs can. At least I'd put /var/log in a
different partition, but anyway I'd partition the disk just in case quota
systems fail. I think it's not a good idea to trust on ftp and mail servers
to manage quo
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 05:11:46PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> Are those partition numbers in order of location on disk?
>
> Most hard drives have the low cylinder numbers on the outside of the disk
> (which has slightly lower average seek times and much better bulk transfer
> rates). You gen
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 05:11 pm, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:10, Mark Constable wrote:
> > /dev/hda5 / 200Mb
> > /dev/hda6 /usr 1Gb
> > /dev/hda7 /var 4Gb
> > /dev/hda8 /home (the rest)
> > /dev/hda9 swap 200Mb
> > /dev/hda10+ (sizes extracted from /home)
>
>
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Heh, this is always an option, but it's not what I were asking for ;)
Mi question is if there is any way of changing the language without
configuring (I suppose not), in order to use the official deb package. If I
build the package (which is the last
It's risky, but you could run apache as root (or suexec the cgi to root)
and then within the script itself do a setuid and seteuid. Since apache is
forking and execing the cgi itself, you should be able to use setuid (the
same way login and ssh does when a user logs into the system). Within perl
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I said I'd trust on kernel quota, but not on proftd and qmail quota.
Anyway, in kernel quota there is some human factor (you can change quotas
size) and human factor is not reliable (even less if I'm this factor :P).
If you say partitioning wastes a
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:20:49PM +1200, Jones, Steven wrote:
> I would strongly disagree, partitioning is very important. Logging should be
> separated out so that a full /var wont stop logging in.
Even with a full /, /usr and /var you can log in to a Debian system
IIRC.
Partitioning your
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:58 pm, junkyjunk.com wrote:
> 50 domains with web and mail should run you probably around 500
> megs on a busy mail day.
hmmm, from the two responses i got, sounds like we could run many more
sites on this box. 100? 200? if disk space and bandwidth is no
proble
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:10, Mark Constable wrote:
> /dev/hda5 / 200Mb
> /dev/hda6 /usr 1Gb
> /dev/hda7 /var 4Gb
> /dev/hda8 /home (the rest)
> /dev/hda9 swap 200Mb
> /dev/hda10+ (sizes extracted from /home)
Are those partition numbers in order of location on disk?
Most har
lsattr /usr/bin/du - chances are it was made immutable ('i' attribute).
Matt.
- Original Message -
From: "Brad Lay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roger Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: apt-get dist-upgrade problem
> First
Hello Dustin
On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:07, Dustin Douglas wrote:
> I don't know of anything that does everything that you want, but a
> good starting point might be the apache suexec docs. For apache 1.3.x
> they can be found at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/suexec.html
>
> Implementing the desired fun
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:15:51AM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
> If no user can fill up the disk, logs can. At least I'd put /var/log in a
> different partition, but anyway I'd partition the disk just in case quota
> systems fail. I think it's not a good idea to trust on ftp and mail s
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:30, Fred Smith wrote:
> you may not be familiar with the nimda virus, so i'll give you and
> overview of it. it spreads through a hole in an IIS extention, uses an
> outrageous amount of bandwidth and effectivley gives anyone root on an
> infected machine, via the executables
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I disagree.
If no user can fill up the disk, logs can. At least I'd put /var/log in a
different partition, but anyway I'd partition the disk just in case quota
systems fail. I think it's not a good idea to trust on ftp and mail servers
to manage quo
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 05:11:46PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> Are those partition numbers in order of location on disk?
>
> Most hard drives have the low cylinder numbers on the outside of the disk
> (which has slightly lower average seek times and much better bulk transfer
> rates). You gen
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