> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:55:41PM -0500, bda wrote:
> > > overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old
> > > favourite "your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must
> > > throw it all away and change to my One True Way". that may be
> > > enough to convince DJB groupie
Craig Sanders writes:
[ http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/blurb/easeofuse.html ]
> almost every bind solution ends with "Look for errors in your system's
> logs." but not one of the djbdns solutions does the same
What you fail to realize is that djbdns puts the errors on your screen,
in response to the com
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:12:20AM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Craig Sanders writes:
>
> > 3. bind zonefiles are human readable. tinydns-data zonefiles are not.
>
> Let's try a simple example. I find
>
>=bear.heaven.af.mil:1.2.3.6
>@heaven.af.mil:1.2.3.4
>
> much easier to read tha
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:12:20AM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Craig Sanders writes:
> [ http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/blurb/easeofuse.html ]
> > almost every bind solution ends with "Look for errors in your system's
> > logs." but not one of the djbdns solutions does the same
>
> What you fail to
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:55:41PM -0500, bda wrote:
> > > overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old
> > > favourite "your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must
> > > throw it all away and change to my One True Way". that may be
> > > enough to convince DJB groupie
Craig Sanders writes:
[ http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/blurb/easeofuse.html ]
> almost every bind solution ends with "Look for errors in your system's
> logs." but not one of the djbdns solutions does the same
What you fail to realize is that djbdns puts the errors on your screen,
in response to the com
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:55:41PM -0500, bda wrote:
> > overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old
> > favourite "your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must
> > throw it all away and change to my One True Way". that may be
> > enough to convince DJB groupies, but it'
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:55:41PM -0500, bda wrote:
> > overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old favourite
Ho-Hum... another djb flamewar.
Anything you post on this topic just duplicates what google can find all
over the place. Can we kill the redundancy and limit it to a lis
> overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old favourite
> "your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must throw it all
> away and change to my One True Way". that may be enough to convince DJB
> groupies, but it's not enough to convince me. in fact, it pisses me off
> and
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:32, Toni Mueller wrote:
> > What security problems does syslogd have? It's performance generally
> > isn't a problem if you use the "-" option on some of the busy log files.
>
> For me, syslog foremost has a performance and reliability problem.
The main problem with syslog
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 05:03:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Is there anything which will allow me to run ezmlm under another
> server, yet? It actually does what it does for very good reasons, IMO,
> and I like the way it does them (specifically, the same
> translation-of-concept for aliases that
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 07:43:26PM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Craig Sanders writes:
> > nobody with more than a handful of domains is going to throw everything
> > away and convert to a new nameserver program
>
> Five of the top ten domain-hosting companies on the Internet---including
> Name
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:55:41PM -0500, bda wrote:
> > overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old
> > favourite "your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must
> > throw it all away and change to my One True Way". that may be
> > enough to convince DJB groupies, but it'
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 05:03:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
>
> Is there anything which will allow me to run ezmlm under another server,
> yet? It actually does what it does for very good reasons, IMO, and I like
> the way it does them (specifically, the same translation-of-concept for
> aliases t
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:55:41PM -0500, bda wrote:
> > overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old favourite
Ho-Hum... another djb flamewar.
Anything you post on this topic just duplicates what google can find all
over the place. Can we kill the redundancy and limit it to a lis
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 06:08:13PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Postfix does virtual domains in a different fashion to sendmail and
> allows you to use both the Sendmail method and the Postfix method in the
> same server. /etc/aliases is getting rather old but it works OK and it's
> good to have
> overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old favourite
> "your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must throw it all
> away and change to my One True Way". that may be enough to convince DJB
> groupies, but it's not enough to convince me. in fact, it pisses me off
> and
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:32, Toni Mueller wrote:
> > What security problems does syslogd have? It's performance generally
> > isn't a problem if you use the "-" option on some of the busy log files.
>
> For me, syslog foremost has a performance and reliability problem.
The main problem with syslog
overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old favourite
"your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must throw it all
away and change to my One True Way". that may be enough to convince DJB
groupies, but it's not enough to convince me. in fact, it pisses me off
and makes me
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:21:04AM +0100, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> For dnscache, this technique means you'll have separate caches for the
> different IPs you want to answer from. This may or may not be a problem.
You would configure one of them to be a slave to the other
("FORWARDONLY"). If al
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 09:12:02PM +0100, Andraz Sraka wrote:
> I'm trying to install InterScan VirusWall 3.7 on one woody box, for
I've recently installed Trend's InterScan on a BSD box using
their Linux emu, but overall found the following problems
with the Trend software:
- They insi
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 05:03:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Is there anything which will allow me to run ezmlm under another
> server, yet? It actually does what it does for very good reasons, IMO,
> and I like the way it does them (specifically, the same
> translation-of-concept for aliases that
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 07:43:26PM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Craig Sanders writes:
> > nobody with more than a handful of domains is going to throw everything
> > away and convert to a new nameserver program
>
> Five of the top ten domain-hosting companies on the Internet---including
> Name
Title: Goodbye!
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 06:08:13PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:51, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote:
> > I think the idea here is to have a file format that can be easily updated
> > by scripts. For example, a script can monitor a cluster of web servers and
> > c
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 05:03:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
>
> Is there anything which will allow me to run ezmlm under another server,
> yet? It actually does what it does for very good reasons, IMO, and I like
> the way it does them (specifically, the same translation-of-concept for
> aliases t
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 06:08:13PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Postfix does virtual domains in a different fashion to sendmail and
> allows you to use both the Sendmail method and the Postfix method in the
> same server. /etc/aliases is getting rather old but it works OK and it's
> good to have
Hello,
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:55:08PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> if djb actually gave a damn about providing a viable replacement for
> bind then he'd climb down off his pedestal and implement native support
> for bind-style configuration and zone files in djbdns. not a
> translator, not
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http://www.maradns.org/faq.html#ips
>How do I get MaraDNS to bind to multiple IP addresses?
>The current method is to run multiple copies of MaraDNS, each using its own
>mararc file.
damn. :-/
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On Wednesday 20 November 2002 20:43, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Let's try a concrete example. With djbdns, to authorize clients with IP
> address 10.*, you touch /service/dnscache/root/ip/10. With BIND, you
> edit named.conf and add something to the all
overall, your argument is just a recapitulation of DJB's old favourite
"your way of doing things is completely wrong, you must throw it all
away and change to my One True Way". that may be enough to convince DJB
groupies, but it's not enough to convince me. in fact, it pisses me off
and makes me
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:55:53PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Many people recommended DJBDNS (both on and off list). I have read the
> following paper which leads me to believe that DJBDNS is slow and has other
> deficiencies. Brad is someone I have a lot of faith in, so I am not e
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:21:04AM +0100, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> For dnscache, this technique means you'll have separate caches for the
> different IPs you want to answer from. This may or may not be a problem.
You would configure one of them to be a slave to the other
("FORWARDONLY"). If al
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 09:12:02PM +0100, Andraz Sraka wrote:
> I'm trying to install InterScan VirusWall 3.7 on one woody box, for
I've recently installed Trend's InterScan on a BSD box using
their Linux emu, but overall found the following problems
with the Trend software:
- They insi
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:27:24PM +0100, jernej horvat wrote:
> Bigger systems can't afford to change or experiment with sw.
this is not strictly DNS related, but this statement is obviously
wrong:
- Bigger systems do have R&D staff (or at least should have) that
can experiment with sof
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:17:04PM +0100, jernej horvat wrote:
> If only djb's sw would be free so ppl could just download a binary package
> for their OS. (i would love to type 'apt-get install djbdns' one day)
that would be fine, but I won't hold my breath.
> "BIND 9 is now fully mu
Title: Goodbye!
Has anyone yet tried to combine using mod_vhost_alias and user directories?
I have a new web server that is configured for mod_vhost_alias but only two
of the web sites should permit access to user directories by the /~user
option. Can anyone suggest how to configure this where members.domain1.com
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 06:08:13PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:51, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote:
> > I think the idea here is to have a file format that can be easily updated
> > by scripts. For example, a script can monitor a cluster of web servers and
> > c
Hello,
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:55:08PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> if djb actually gave a damn about providing a viable replacement for
> bind then he'd climb down off his pedestal and implement native support
> for bind-style configuration and zone files in djbdns. not a
> translator, not
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Just for info:
http://www.maradns.org/faq.html#ips
>How do I get MaraDNS to bind to multiple IP addresses?
>The current method is to run multiple copies of MaraDNS, each using its own
>mararc file.
damn. :-/
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On Wednesday 20 November 2002 20:43, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Let's try a concrete example. With djbdns, to authorize clients with IP
> address 10.*, you touch /service/dnscache/root/ip/10. With BIND, you
> edit named.conf and add something to the all
Hello,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:55:53PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Many people recommended DJBDNS (both on and off list). I have read the
> following paper which leads me to believe that DJBDNS is slow and has other
> deficiencies. Brad is someone I have a lot of faith in, so I am not e
Craig Sanders writes:
> nobody with more than a handful of domains is going to throw everything
> away and convert to a new nameserver program
Five of the top ten domain-hosting companies on the Internet---including
Namezero, the largest---have switched to djbdns (tinydns) to publish
their domains
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:27:24PM +0100, jernej horvat wrote:
> Bigger systems can't afford to change or experiment with sw.
this is not strictly DNS related, but this statement is obviously
wrong:
- Bigger systems do have R&D staff (or at least should have) that
can experiment with sof
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 11:17:04PM +0100, jernej horvat wrote:
> If only djb's sw would be free so ppl could just download a binary package
> for their OS. (i would love to type 'apt-get install djbdns' one day)
that would be fine, but I won't hold my breath.
> "BIND 9 is now fully mu
Has anyone yet tried to combine using mod_vhost_alias and user directories?
I have a new web server that is configured for mod_vhost_alias but only two
of the web sites should permit access to user directories by the /~user
option. Can anyone suggest how to configure this where members.domain1.com
Craig Sanders writes:
> nobody with more than a handful of domains is going to throw everything
> away and convert to a new nameserver program
Five of the top ten domain-hosting companies on the Internet---including
Namezero, the largest---have switched to djbdns (tinydns) to publish
their domains
Dear Joey,
> http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/b/bind/bind_8.3.3-2.0woody1_i386.deb
Thank you for your direct link to a download for the patched BIND 8.
Hope the non-US/security server comes back up soon!
Much appreciated.
Sincerely,
Jas
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From: "Joey Hess" <[EMAIL P
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:51, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote:
> Craig Sanders writes:
> > if djb actually gave a damn about providing a viable replacement for
> > bind then he'd climb down off his pedestal and implement native support
> > for bind-style configuration and zone files in djbdns. n
Jason Lim wrote:
> Do you know when Debian is going to get the BIND 8 patch (or BIND 8.3.4)
> for that recent vulnerability?
We already did, 6 days ago:
http://www.debian.org/security/2002/dsa-196
> Looks like the security server is down?
It was in a building that burnt to the ground today. Sho
Dear Joey,
> http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/b/bind/bind_8.3.3-2.0woody1_i386.deb
Thank you for your direct link to a download for the patched BIND 8.
Hope the non-US/security server comes back up soon!
Much appreciated.
Sincerely,
Jas
- Original Message -
From: "Joey Hess" <[EMAIL P
Hi
I wonder if there an understandble howto that I can use for installing QMAIL
+ MYSQL + VPOPMAIL (with MYSQL accounts) + COURIER-IMAP + SQUIRRELMAIL +
Clam AntiVirus on my server using deb pacakges.
Regards
Itamar
Craig Sanders writes:
> if djb actually gave a damn about providing a viable replacement for
> bind then he'd climb down off his pedestal and implement native support
> for bind-style configuration and zone files in djbdns. not a
> translator, not a converter, but native support for the existing f
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:51, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote:
> Craig Sanders writes:
> > if djb actually gave a damn about providing a viable replacement for
> > bind then he'd climb down off his pedestal and implement native support
> > for bind-style configuration and zone files in djbdns. n
Well, besides the fact the A + D are completly destroyed, there are besides
a couple of exams that are lost, no further losses of data. Backups come in
handy in cases like this.
There will be an attempt on making a temp network, but that is going to take
day's. I was told that the backup-power su
Jason Lim wrote:
> Do you know when Debian is going to get the BIND 8 patch (or BIND 8.3.4)
> for that recent vulnerability?
We already did, 6 days ago:
http://www.debian.org/security/2002/dsa-196
> Looks like the security server is down?
It was in a building that burnt to the ground today. Sho
Hi
I wonder if there an understandble howto that I can use for installing QMAIL
+ MYSQL + VPOPMAIL (with MYSQL accounts) + COURIER-IMAP + SQUIRRELMAIL +
Clam AntiVirus on my server using deb pacakges.
Regards
Itamar
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Craig Sanders writes:
> if djb actually gave a damn about providing a viable replacement for
> bind then he'd climb down off his pedestal and implement native support
> for bind-style configuration and zone files in djbdns. not a
> translator, not a converter, but native support for the existing f
Well, besides the fact the A + D are completly destroyed, there are besides
a couple of exams that are lost, no further losses of data. Backups come in
handy in cases like this.
There will be an attempt on making a temp network, but that is going to take
day's. I was told that the backup-power su
Latest news resources say the fire has destoyed the network ( read: not the
server rooms ). Wing A to D are burned out -> i hope security.debian.org isn't
there :(
Citeren jernej horvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:28:46 +0100 (MET)
From: Pieter-Paul Spiertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Hi,
security.debian.org (aka non-us.debian.or
Hi guys,
Do you know when Debian is going to get the BIND 8 patch (or BIND 8.3.4)
for that recent vulnerability?
Looks like the security server is down?
Hit http://ftp.jp.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.jp.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Release
Err http://security.deb
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:07:53AM +0100, jernej horvat wrote:
> ave.
>
> I have a question about djbdns - can i have one control file for all
> IP's/interfaces that i have on one system ?
I have no idea what a control file is in the context of djbdns, but if
you mean you want the tinydns
Latest news resources say the fire has destoyed the network ( read: not the
server rooms ). Wing A to D are burned out -> i hope security.debian.org isn't
there :(
Citeren jernej horvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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Subject: security.debian.org down
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:28:46 +0100 (MET)
From: Pieter-Paul Spiertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
security.debian.org (aka non-us.debian.org aka satie.deb
Hi guys,
Do you know when Debian is going to get the BIND 8 patch (or BIND 8.3.4)
for that recent vulnerability?
Looks like the security server is down?
Hit http://ftp.jp.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.jp.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Release
Err http://security.deb
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:07:53AM +0100, jernej horvat wrote:
> ave.
>
> I have a question about djbdns - can i have one control file for all
> IP's/interfaces that i have on one system ?
I have no idea what a control file is in the context of djbdns, but if
you mean you want the tinydns
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