Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 12:07:34PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:13, Tim Uckun wrote: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does > > imap encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > > Both POP and IMAP have extensions to allow

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 12:07:34PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:13, Tim Uckun wrote: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does > > imap encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > > Both POP and IMAP have extensions to allo

RE: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
We do all our log processing as a user called "stats" on one of our machines. The root accounts on all our web servers have their ssh public keys in the stats user's authorized_keys file, and they run a nifty log rotation program that uploads the log data to the box we do all our log analysis/etc

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:13, Tim Uckun wrote: > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. Both POP and IMAP have extensions to allow minimal security for the password (but still allow plain-text transfer

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
Thats not very good security-wise to run webalizer as www-data, because if a user ever finds a way to poison the log files, then webalizer will run them as www-data, and possibly be able to fool around with apache too (because they now run as the same user). A far better way (and much more direct)

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
Yes, for security, and it is easier to see what processes are taking too long to run. But now that apache saves the log files so that users can't read them... it doesn't work anymore :-/ Any ideas on how to make the logfiles a+r? Sincerely, Jason - Original Message - From: "James" <[EMA

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RE: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
We do all our log processing as a user called "stats" on one of our machines. The root accounts on all our web servers have their ssh public keys in the stats user's authorized_keys file, and they run a nifty log rotation program that uploads the log data to the box we do all our log analysis/etc

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:13, Tim Uckun wrote: > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. Both POP and IMAP have extensions to allow minimal security for the password (but still allow plain-text transfe

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
Thats not very good security-wise to run webalizer as www-data, because if a user ever finds a way to poison the log files, then webalizer will run them as www-data, and possibly be able to fool around with apache too (because they now run as the same user). A far better way (and much more direct

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jason Lim
Yes, for security, and it is easier to see what processes are taking too long to run. But now that apache saves the log files so that users can't read them... it doesn't work anymore :-/ Any ideas on how to make the logfiles a+r? Sincerely, Jason - Original Message - From: "James" <[EM

Re: Mailinglist software recommendations?

2001-12-07 Thread Teun Vink
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Marcel Hicking wrote: > Hi folks > > could anyone recommend a mailinglist software for > several small to medium sized mailinglists (say, > from very few to maybe a thousand or so subscribers)? > > I would need > a) The mailingslist software (obviously) > b) Some admin web in

Mailinglist software recommendations?

2001-12-07 Thread Marcel Hicking
Hi folks could anyone recommend a mailinglist software for several small to medium sized mailinglists (say, from very few to maybe a thousand or so subscribers)? I would need a) The mailingslist software (obviously) b) Some admin web interface for the guys going to use and feed the lists. Need to

Re: Mailinglist software recommendations?

2001-12-07 Thread Teun Vink
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Marcel Hicking wrote: > Hi folks > > could anyone recommend a mailinglist software for > several small to medium sized mailinglists (say, > from very few to maybe a thousand or so subscribers)? > > I would need > a) The mailingslist software (obviously) > b) Some admin web i

Mailinglist software recommendations?

2001-12-07 Thread Marcel Hicking
Hi folks could anyone recommend a mailinglist software for several small to medium sized mailinglists (say, from very few to maybe a thousand or so subscribers)? I would need a) The mailingslist software (obviously) b) Some admin web interface for the guys going to use and feed the lists. Need t

Cups, samba and Tektronix printer

2001-12-07 Thread Craigsc
Good day fellas Could some one give me assistance with cups. I have a network printer (Tektronix Phaser 360) on an internal network. I have setup Samba with the printer shared so that windose workstations can print to it. The prints are going though cups because its logging them but then they d

Re: Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Charl Matthee
On Fri Dec 07 2001 at 09:39:54AM -0200 'Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? iproute Ciao Charl __ I don't suffer from insanity, I

Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld
Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? -- Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld Analista de Sistemas Consultoria de Informatica Cathedral [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Gnome PGP version 0.4 owJ4nDsdWcJg/fn6pqD8lKLM

Re: Fw: Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Jose Celestino
net/iproute Thus spake Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld, on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:41:01AM -0200: > > > > Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? > > -- > Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld > Analista de Sistemas > Consultoria de Informatica Cathedral > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -BE

Fw: Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld
Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? -- Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld Analista de Sistemas Consultoria de Informatica Cathedral [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Gnome PGP version 0.4 owJ4nDsdWcJg/fn6pqD8l

Cups, samba and Tektronix printer

2001-12-07 Thread Craigsc
Good day fellas Could some one give me assistance with cups. I have a network printer (Tektronix Phaser 360) on an internal network. I have setup Samba with the printer shared so that windose workstations can print to it. The prints are going though cups because its logging them but then they

Re: Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Charl Matthee
On Fri Dec 07 2001 at 09:39:54AM -0200 'Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? iproute Ciao Charl __ I don't suffer from insanity,

Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld
Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? -- Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld Analista de Sistemas Consultoria de Informatica Cathedral [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Gnome PGP version 0.4 owJ4nDsdWcJg/fn6pqD8lKL

Re: Fw: Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Jose Celestino
net/iproute Thus spake Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld, on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:41:01AM -0200: > > > > Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? > > -- > Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld > Analista de Sistemas > Consultoria de Informatica Cathedral > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -B

Fw: Primary question about cbq

2001-12-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld
Wich package on debian provides cbq and advanc routing?? -- Rodrigo Cesar Herefeld Analista de Sistemas Consultoria de Informatica Cathedral [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Gnome PGP version 0.4 owJ4nDsdWcJg/fn6pqD8

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:41:00AM +0100, James wrote: > It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of > doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) Generally it is a good idea to run everything you can as non-root. Come to think of it, I probably have webalizer

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Tim Uckun
At 07:21 PM 12/7/2001 +1100, Jeremy Lunn wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:13:26PM +1300, Michael Jager wrote: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > APOP. I dunno how you get it or whatever,

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread James
It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Jason Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache > generates? > > -rw-r-1 www-data www-data

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:51:03AM +0100, Markus Garscha wrote: > I think using POP3-SSL and IMAP-SSL server would be the best choice. > Have a look at courier-imap/pop3 suite. it is easy and good. Only problem might be the extra CPU usage, but if the content of your emails are highly confidential

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:13:26PM +1300, Michael Jager wrote: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > APOP. I dunno how you get it or whatever, but I know it exists and passwords > are encryp

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Markus Garscha
Hi! I think using POP3-SSL and IMAP-SSL server would be the best choice. Have a look at courier-imap/pop3 suite. it is easy and good. so far markus * Tim Uckun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-12-07 08:30]: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > encrypt passwo

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 09:41:00AM +0100, James wrote: > It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of > doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) Generally it is a good idea to run everything you can as non-root. Come to think of it, I probably have webalize

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Jager
claiming to be Tim Uckun, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. APOP. I dunno how you get it or whatever, but I know it exists and passwords are encrypted (IIRC). Micha

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Tim Uckun
At 07:21 PM 12/7/2001 +1100, Jeremy Lunn wrote: >On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:13:26PM +1300, Michael Jager wrote: > > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > > > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > > APOP. I dunno how you get it or w

Re: Strange apache behaviour?

2001-12-07 Thread James
It is usual to run webalizer as a user? I have never even thought of doing that. Is there any particular reason? (security?) On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Jason Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache > generates? > > -rw-r-1 www-data www-data

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:51:03AM +0100, Markus Garscha wrote: > I think using POP3-SSL and IMAP-SSL server would be the best choice. > Have a look at courier-imap/pop3 suite. it is easy and good. Only problem might be the extra CPU usage, but if the content of your emails are highly confidentia

Re: Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Jeremy Lunn
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:13:26PM +1300, Michael Jager wrote: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > APOP. I dunno how you get it or whatever, but I know it exists and passwords > are encry

Pop or Imap?

2001-12-07 Thread Tim Uckun
I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. THX. -- Tim Uckun Mobile Intelligence Unit. -- "Th