Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 07:27:52PM -0700, Duane Powers wrote: > Fantastic advice, thanks. one thing i forgot to mention: if there's any mail left in the sendmail queue after the conversion, then postfix won't know about it and won't be able to deliver it. before you uninstall sendmail, shut it d

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Chris Wagner
Revisiting traceroute.org, I see that they have a whole list of route servers. :) At 01:09 PM 6/27/01 +0200, Russell Coker wrote: >Here's a machine that used to provide such a service, not sure if it >still does: > >route-views.oregon-ix.net ---==--- ___/``\___

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 07:27:52PM -0700, Duane Powers wrote: > Fantastic advice, thanks. one thing i forgot to mention: if there's any mail left in the sendmail queue after the conversion, then postfix won't know about it and won't be able to deliver it. before you uninstall sendmail, shut it

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:48:19AM -0700, Duane Powers wrote: > security conscious > virtual email accounts, likely using LDAP > spam control > ease of configuration > > I"m kinda leaning toward postfix, but that's just because I like the > cover of the book I saw at borders yesterday postfix i

Re: Qmail - huge performance increase

2001-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:03:11PM +0200, Tomasz Papszun wrote: > "/bin/ls | wc" has taken 1 (one) second. "ls | wc" lasted 3 minutes and 26 > seconds. Yes, near 3 and a half minutes! > > This is because "ls" with additional information (e.g. file type, which is > needed to colour a listing) needs

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:48:19AM -0700, Duane Powers wrote: > security conscious > virtual email accounts, likely using LDAP > spam control > ease of configuration > > I"m kinda leaning toward postfix, but that's just because I like the > cover of the book I saw at borders yesterday postfix

Re: Qmail - huge performance increase

2001-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:03:11PM +0200, Tomasz Papszun wrote: > "/bin/ls | wc" has taken 1 (one) second. "ls | wc" lasted 3 minutes and 26 > seconds. Yes, near 3 and a half minutes! > > This is because "ls" with additional information (e.g. file type, which is > needed to colour a listing) need

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread JPS
All other issues aside ... some might find the qmail license to be quite onerous. -- Jean-Paul Stewart Senior Systems Administrator CarbonMedia, Inc. 114 East 25th Street, Eighth Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: 212.253.7180 Fax: 212.253.8467 http://www.carbonmedia.com/

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Alex Borges
Nick Jennings wrote: It seems that you've had little experience with anything but sendmail, so you're opinion may be rather biased. I have used sendmail, exim, postfix and qmail and I think that exim and postfix are very good, high performance yet easily configurable and maintainable mail serv

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Nick Jennings
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 01:18:41PM -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote: > > I guess my thoughts are: > 1) Let me know what sendmail can do to help > 2) If you want to switch, check to see if you've got anything tricky > in your rules - you *WILL* loose functionality with any other MTA > (tu

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread JPS
All other issues aside ... some might find the qmail license to be quite onerous. -- Jean-Paul Stewart Senior Systems Administrator CarbonMedia, Inc. 114 East 25th Street, Eighth Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: 212.253.7180 Fax: 212.253.8467 http://www.carbonmedia.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Alex Borges
Nick Jennings wrote: > It seems that you've had little experience with anything but sendmail, > so you're opinion may be rather biased. > > I have used sendmail, exim, postfix and qmail and I think that exim and > postfix are very good, high performance yet easily configurable and > maintain

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Nick Jennings
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 01:18:41PM -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote: > > I guess my thoughts are: > 1) Let me know what sendmail can do to help > 2) If you want to switch, check to see if you've got anything tricky > in your rules - you *WILL* loose functionality with any other MTA > (t

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Greg Rowe
Check out mail-abuse.org. They are the ones who actually run the RBL. vix.com no longer mirrors the RBL. According to the mail-abuse web page vix.com stopped on June 15th. I didn't read why..I would have been very sad to see the RBL go away. You scared me ;) Greg On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Duane P

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Duane Powers
Greg Rowe wrote: What do you mean departure of the rbl? blackhole.mail-abuse.org still works? I read a thread on one of the debian lists a couple weeks ago about one of the spam databases going away... a couple of days later, I started getting lots of this daemon.log.0:Jun 21 22:18:37 ns1 name

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Greg Rowe
What do you mean departure of the rbl? blackhole.mail-abuse.org still works? I have been researching MTAs for a little while trying to figure out what I want to use instead of sendmail. I was looking for maildir delivery, ease of configuration, support for virtual hosting, and virtual accounts.

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Ilya Martynov
DP> Hey all, DP> I've been using sendmail 8.11 for the last couple of years, and while DP> not real easy to configure, it has fit my purposes well. I was using DP> the rbl to cut down on unwanted spam for my users, but with the DP> departure of the rbl, I'm finding my server passing more spam to m

Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Duane Powers
Hey all, I've been using sendmail 8.11 for the last couple of years, and while not real easy to configure, it has fit my purposes well. I was using the rbl to cut down on unwanted spam for my users, but with the departure of the rbl, I'm finding my server passing more spam to my users, I may be

Re: Qmail - huge performance increase

2001-06-27 Thread David Bishop
And on an Ultra-60 running Solaris 7 w/UFS: bash-2.04$ time /bin/ls | wc 63975 63975 1971245 real0m2.213s user0m1.160s sys 0m0.890s bash-2.04$ time ls | wc 63975 63975 1971253 real2m19.965s user0m1.490s sys 0m16.340s bash-2.04$ Sped it up "just a little bit"

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Greg Rowe
Check out mail-abuse.org. They are the ones who actually run the RBL. vix.com no longer mirrors the RBL. According to the mail-abuse web page vix.com stopped on June 15th. I didn't read why..I would have been very sad to see the RBL go away. You scared me ;) Greg On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Duane

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Duane Powers
Greg Rowe wrote: > What do you mean departure of the rbl? blackhole.mail-abuse.org still > works? I read a thread on one of the debian lists a couple weeks ago about one of the spam databases going away... a couple of days later, I started getting lots of this daemon.log.0:Jun 21 22:18:37 n

Re: Qmail - huge performance increase

2001-06-27 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 at 13:25:17 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:45:23AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote: > > SO... by increasing conf-split to 97 (from the default of 20 > > something afaik), each directory ends up only having a hundred or so > > files. Doing "ls" now is far speedie

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Greg Rowe
What do you mean departure of the rbl? blackhole.mail-abuse.org still works? I have been researching MTAs for a little while trying to figure out what I want to use instead of sendmail. I was looking for maildir delivery, ease of configuration, support for virtual hosting, and virtual accounts.

Re: Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Ilya Martynov
DP> Hey all, DP> I've been using sendmail 8.11 for the last couple of years, and while DP> not real easy to configure, it has fit my purposes well. I was using DP> the rbl to cut down on unwanted spam for my users, but with the DP> departure of the rbl, I'm finding my server passing more spam to

Sendmail vs. ?

2001-06-27 Thread Duane Powers
Hey all, I've been using sendmail 8.11 for the last couple of years, and while not real easy to configure, it has fit my purposes well. I was using the rbl to cut down on unwanted spam for my users, but with the departure of the rbl, I'm finding my server passing more spam to my users, I may b

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 27 June 2001 08:14, Chris Wagner wrote: > A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route > lookups and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. > The special thing about this router was that you didn't need a user > name or password to log on wi

Re: Qmail - huge performance increase

2001-06-27 Thread David Bishop
And on an Ultra-60 running Solaris 7 w/UFS: bash-2.04$ time /bin/ls | wc 63975 63975 1971245 real0m2.213s user0m1.160s sys 0m0.890s bash-2.04$ time ls | wc 63975 63975 1971253 real2m19.965s user0m1.490s sys 0m16.340s bash-2.04$ Sped it up "just a little bit

Re: Qmail - huge performance increase

2001-06-27 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 at 13:25:17 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:45:23AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote: > > SO... by increasing conf-split to 97 (from the default of 20 > > something afaik), each directory ends up only having a hundred or so > > files. Doing "ls" now is far speedi

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 27 June 2001 08:14, Chris Wagner wrote: > A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route > lookups and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. > The special thing about this router was that you didn't need a user > name or password to log on w

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Matt Ryan
> A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups > and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special > thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to > log on with. It just gave you the IOS prompt. I haven't been

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 02:14:41 EDT, Chris Wagner writes: >A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups >and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special >thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to >log on wit

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Matt Ryan
> A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups > and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special > thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to > log on with. It just gave you the IOS prompt. I haven't bee

RE: Hard disk lock down.

2001-06-27 Thread Cho Yoonbae
Thanks for your advice. I checked 'D' stats process numbers and compare with uptime's value.. yes, your opnion was right. :-) but I couldn't prove what occurs problem. There are'nt special messages in kern.log and dmesg. I'm using 2.4.5 kernel. What can I do check else? -Original Message--

AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Chris Wagner
A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to log on with. It just gave you the IOS prompt. I haven't been on this

Re: AT&T public router

2001-06-27 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 02:14:41 EDT, Chris Wagner writes: >A while back, AT&T had a publicly accessible router for doing route lookups >and stuff like that. It supposedly knew about the whole world. The special >thing about this router was that you didn't need a user name or password to >log on wi