Re: Preview of the i18n and l10n paper for Debcon6

2006-04-04 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 4/4/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Eddy_Petri=BAor?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am sure Christian ment somethign along the lines of: > > > > Javier and myself and they perfectly know > > we do not push for English as the universal language: we just live > > with the fac

Re: Preview of the i18n and l10n paper for Debcon6

2006-04-04 Thread MJ Ray
"=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Eddy_Petri=BAor?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 4/4/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "=3D?ISO-8859-2?Q?Eddy_Petri=3DBAor?=3D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [..] do not push for English as the universal language: we just live > > > with the fact that is mostly used in international

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 4 Apr 2006, Benj. Mako Hill spake thusly: > >> The problem is more one of 'how do we identify those people that >> aren't a Developer, but that do contribute regularly'. > > There are a number of ways of doing this although, like NM, it's > ultimately a human process that is carried out in the

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 4 Apr 2006, Benj. Mako Hill stated: > >> Most developers seem to agree that there are bugs in our process >> for integrating new members into the project, but that's not the >> same as saying that non-DDs should be allowed to vote > > Clearly not. > >> voting rights are one of the few privileg

Re: Preview of the i18n and l10n paper for Debcon6

2006-04-04 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.04.2006 um 09:58 schrieb Eddy Petrişor: So you need evidence that English is used in many cases when two speakers of different languages meet andd have no other common ground language? I they have no other common ground language... Many hav

Re: Preview of the i18n and l10n paper for Debcon6

2006-04-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jutta Wrage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I would prefer "English as a universal lanhguage?" - note the > question mark. This is what Javier and I did put in the last version of the paper, on a sugegstion of mine (in case some doubted my own commitment in that areaI neglected answering MJ

Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2006

2006-04-04 Thread MJ Ray
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Now, if there are people like that who are not DD's, the > question we must ask, is wjy are they not DD's? If they are putting > in the work, and have the same commitment as a DD does, even if they > do not package stuff, why is the project not tre

what are developers ? (was Third call for votes...)

2006-04-04 Thread JC Helary
On 2006/04/05, at 15:27, MJ Ray wrote: "The Debian New Maintainer process is a series of required proceedings to become a Debian Developer." -- http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint Or is the above statement false? It seems to disagree with the constitution section 3.2.1 "Developers are vo