Re: K2 images

2003-03-12 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Andrew Mitchell wrote: > Blame my bad CDROM drive - it decided to not read the image off it properly > > > > > > As well, hurd-K2-CD4.iso is missing. > > > I will check on this. Thanks. > > See above :) > > Got my other computer working with a different drive last nig

Re: K2 images

2003-03-12 Thread Simon Law
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:18:58AM +1300, Andrew Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:29:15AM -0500, Simon Law wrote: > > > I'm sorry, it doesn't look like ftp.gnu.org/iso is exposed via > > rsync. I've downloaded hurd-K2-CD3.iso twice and both times it comes > > up with the same erro

Re: K2 images

2003-03-12 Thread Andrew Mitchell
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:29:15AM -0500, Simon Law wrote: > I'm sorry, it doesn't look like ftp.gnu.org/iso is exposed via > rsync. I've downloaded hurd-K2-CD3.iso twice and both times it comes > up with the same erroneous MD5 hash. I can only conclude that it is > corrupted on the ftp.gn

Re: K2 images

2003-03-12 Thread Simon Law
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:03:18PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Simon Law wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:08:13AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Last time I installed hurd I used to cross-install u

Re: K2 images

2003-03-12 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Simon Law wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:08:13AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > > > > > > > > Last time I installed hurd I used to cross-install using the tar ball. > > > This time I decided to use the CD's, but on every sys

Re: K2 images

2003-03-11 Thread Simon Law
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:08:13AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > > > > > Last time I installed hurd I used to cross-install using the tar ball. > > This time I decided to use the CD's, but on every system I tried them > > the menu option 'install base

Re: Re: K2 images

2003-03-06 Thread Matthew Grant
Hi, Works fine over here. Thanks Philip nice work : ) Matt On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Philip Charles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > > > > > Last time I installed hurd I used to cross-install using the tar ball. > > This time I decided to use the CD'

Re: K2 images

2003-03-06 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > > Last time I installed hurd I used to cross-install using the tar ball. > This time I decided to use the CD's, but on every system I tried them > the menu option 'install base system' which seems to untar the base tar > ball ends quickly in an error.

Re: K2 images

2003-03-06 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
Last time I installed hurd I used to cross-install using the tar ball. This time I decided to use the CD's, but on every system I tried them the menu option 'install base system' which seems to untar the base tar ball ends quickly in an error. The console which tails the log says tar exited whith

Re: K2 images

2003-03-06 Thread Philip Charles
Grant, Thanks for the reminder. Done. Phil. On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Grant Bowman wrote: > Please feel free to use this page for comments as well: > > http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Distrib/CDNotesK2 > > Cheers, > > -- > -- Grant Bowman<[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: K2 images

2003-03-06 Thread Grant Bowman
Please feel free to use this page for comments as well: http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Distrib/CDNotesK2 Cheers, -- -- Grant Bowman<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030302 15:39]: > The release was frozen after yesterday's puls

K2 images

2003-03-05 Thread Philip Charles
The first two K2 images are now on ftp.gnu.org/iso thanks to Andrew Mitchell. The next two should be available in the next day or so. The main change has been a revision of how the packages are placed on the CDs and the introduction of install.sh which installs the required, important and

K2 images

2003-03-02 Thread Philip Charles
The release was frozen after yesterday's pulse. There are now five images, six if the excluded packages are put into a separate filesystem. All the *hurd-i386.deb's are on the first two CDs. However, more of these have been pushed onto the second image which means that the placement of the packa

Re: GNU/Hurd terminology / Texinfo - K2 images

2003-03-02 Thread Oliver Beck
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 01:45:58 +1300 (NZDT) Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. Now included in the CD docs. I have update the files since they had an black square an one page that has now been corrected. Bye Oliver ~~ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GO d- s

Re: GNU/Hurd terminology / Texinfo - K2 images

2003-03-02 Thread Philip Charles
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Oliver Beck wrote: > You can found the latest version on: > > http://www.std-err.de/hurd-install-guide/german > Thanks. Now included in the CD docs. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875

Re: GNU/Hurd terminology / Texinfo - K2 images

2003-03-02 Thread Oliver Beck
You can found the latest version on: http://www.std-err.de/hurd-install-guide/german Best regards Oliver ~~ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GO d- s: a-- C+++ UL++ U*+ P+ L+++ E- W++ N++ o+ K- w-- w--- O- PS+ PE- Y+ PGP- t-- 5- X+ R- tv- b++ DI D+ G e h++ r y++ --END G

Re: GNU/Hurd terminology / Texinfo - K2 images

2003-03-02 Thread Philip Charles
Any chance of html, txt and pdf versions being available in the next 24 hours? I am about to test the final version of the K2 discs and I would like to include the German docs. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488

K2 images, Xfree

2003-03-02 Thread Philip Charles
Is it worth while writing a script that will install the Xfree packages? >From what I have seen it is not going to work. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: lsh [was: Re: K2 images]

2003-02-28 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:33:44AM +0100, pancake wrote: > > I think that LSH is more correct on hurd because the license (GPLvsBSD) > > Once the package conforms to the Free Software Definition, we > shouldn't worry about which license a project uses

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:44:48AM +0100, pancake wrote: > Why not use lsh instead of OpenSsh? I think that in hurd project there > are more political reasons than security ones. > http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/lsh/ While this might be true in the general sense - A GNU Project should prefer G

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Niels Möller
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > lsh is equally correct as OpenSSH. Both are Free Software. If you > want to go down this dark, and dangrous road you might just as well > say that running only FSF copyrighted software is the correct thing on > GNU/Hurd, and all software that is n

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Niels Möller
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Care to say more about how lsh gatheres its random bits? How good are > they? The quality is quite system dependent, so in general, it's hard to guarantee anything more than "better than nothing". The current sources are: /dev/random or /dev/ur

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
lsh can create a random seed with some entropy from other sources, like various system state or even the traditional random typing thing. So even if real /dev/random is strongly recommended, it is not absolutely necessary. Care to say more about how lsh gatheres its random bits? How g

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
I think that LSH is more correct on hurd because the license (GPLvsBSD) lsh is equally correct as OpenSSH. Both are Free Software. If you want to go down this dark, and dangrous road you might just as well say that running only FSF copyrighted software is the correct thing on GNU/Hurd, and

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Niels Möller
pancake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not use lsh instead of OpenSsh? I think that in hurd project > there are more political reasons than security ones. Well, it's true that lsh is a "GNU Project", while openssh is not. But that probably doesn't matter much in a debian context. As the lsh a

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Niels Möller
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But lsh is _still_ useless on GNU/Hurd since no good source of > random bits exists... lsh can create a random seed with some entropy from other sources, like various system state or even the traditional random typing thing. So even if real /dev/ra

lsh [was: Re: K2 images]

2003-02-28 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:33:44AM +0100, pancake wrote: > I think that LSH is more correct on hurd because the license (GPLvsBSD) Once the package conforms to the Free Software Definition, we shouldn't worry about which license a project uses. The GNU position, generally, is that the GPL is the

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread pancake
OPenSSH: is freely useable and re-useable by everyone under a BSD license. LSH: A GNU implementation of the Secure Shell protocols. I think that LSH is more correct on hurd because the license (GPLvsBSD) there are many random translators, but I think that anybody says that will build the d

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Why not use lsh instead of OpenSsh? I think that in hurd project there are more political reasons than security ones. Both are Free Software correct? Then there are no "political" reasons to prefer the one over the other. But lsh is _still_ useless on GNU/Hurd since no good source of random

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Bruno Bonfils
Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > libl1 (needed for xdm) I can't find this library in any source repository -- Bruno Bonfils http://www.debian-fr.org/ http://www.asyd.net/

Re: K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread pancake
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:50:33PM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > I'm back. Sorry about my silence, I have been far too busy even to follow > what has been happening with GNU. Things should ease up at the middle of > the year. > > The K2 images are coming along nicely. I wi

K2 images

2003-02-28 Thread Philip Charles
I'm back. Sorry about my silence, I have been far too busy even to follow what has been happening with GNU. Things should ease up at the middle of the year. The K2 images are coming along nicely. I will need to have them finalised by Wednesday. Some questions. x-windows. There are