[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels MÃller) writes:
> Right, unionfs should be well suited for this.
At least if it's bugs are fixed. For those who might be interested in
it: there's a unionfs version in the Savannah CVS (as part of the
`hurdextras' package). This code contains some - in my opinion -
impo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Möller) writes:
> We're quickly getting off topic here, but I'm not so worried about
> the technological side of TCPA/Palladium.
It is worth mentioning that the pure evil (tm) is nor incarnated by
TCPA, but rather by Palladium. A TCPA chip does indeed have
interesting fe
Hi Nicolas,
well, if someone recommended you to read a text by Eric Raymond about
`Hackers', that someone did exactly this; nobody recommended you to
read a text written by him about his politic views or about this
interest in guns. The one thing does not necessarily influence the
other thing in
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Cross compiling X is insane.
Why exactly is it insane?
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You can get some helpful information out of ftpfs like this:
Start an active ftpfs instance:
$ settrans -afg node /hurd/ftpfs --HANG=
Now you have seconds left to attach gdb to the ftpfs process
on a different terminal: get the PID via ps and then:
$ gdb /hurd/ftpfs
Let the process continue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:
> Why do you think it would necessarily be too slow?
Well, of course it creates `some' overhead, since it is another layer
on top of the real filesystem, through which path lookups are routed.
I am not sure, wether that is already too much overhead
Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - the separation of partitions should be solved by union(shadow)fs
> and not directories
I have one doubt about using a unionfs as root filesystem:
performance.
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"Praveen Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Besides is it possible to mount an iso file using -o loop option?
>> I mean as under GNU/Linux:
>> mount -o loop foo.iso /
>
> Upto me, I think there's no support for loop devices.
There is no support for `loop devices', since that term is not used
Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> could the gcc-3.2 package be cross-compiled from a linux-i386 box
> using gcc-i386-gnu?
I think it's more important to fix this package (since it's quite
wrong in my eyes if something that fundamental like gcc depends on
stuff like libgnome/libgimpprint
"TBrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't know what debuging is. Can you explain it to me.
Debugging means 'finding bugs' in a program and/or 'fixing them'. A
debugger is a program, which makes that easy and lets you run a
program in a special environment, in which you can analyze the contr
Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> #/sbin/fsck: /: Cannot make readonly: Device or resource busy
> #Unknown error during fsck (exit status 50)
We had a discussion about this bug on bug-hurd recently. A workaround
is to specify '--readonly' to ext2fs.static when loading the multiboot
mo
Jason Dagit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It is a programmable interrupt, you just overwrite the function
> pointer the OS whats to use with your value.
Well, note the difference:
* login-fake-program-0 is simply a normal user program, which displays
a login screen and receives the password.
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, because if you need a secure console (eg, if the computer is
> accessible in public), you need to take a lot of extra steps anyway
> to secure the machine: You need to set a BIOS and GRUB password, for
> example.
Of course! Don't get me wrong,
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about making the console a login shell by default, and on
> remote connections a login prompt?
I already found that comment in the list archive, but I still don't
get it: why do you still want to make console access so insecure?
What is the adva
James Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, as you previously mentioned there is no power in this login
> shell so we aren't leaving open doors all over the place.
Wait. As the system is right now, there's a lot of power in the login
shell from a security perspective. And now you are co
Hi,
I want to start this thread, because I think there is something
wrong with the GNU default login method. The question about the sense
of the login shell should maybe asked again at this time. What are
the advantages and, which is IMHO even more important, what are the
disadvantages of it?
Bill Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> and I'm confused about something: RMS says "You can even use GDB to
> debug the file system while the system is running--thread-specific
> breakpoints allow you to..."
That is right. All the Hurd server run entirely in User space which
makes it possible t
Hello people,
it seems there are more people interested in Hurd shirts than I
thought - already approx. 20 (most of them came from Europe). But
actually I didn't want to open a Hurd shirt shop myself. =) Therefore
I sent a mail to the FSFe - and the great thing: they think these
shirts are a good
Hello,
I'd like to print some Hurd Shirts (here, in a printing shop in .de).
It would cost EUR 18.90 (+ shipping) - if we get 10 orders. Right
now, 4 are still missing. I'm not sure wether the price is okay, but
I think it's not too bad. Therfore my question: any more people
interested in such
The question I have is general and I think it's related to this
thread.
In my opinion, the passive translators used for auto-mounting
filesystems are very different from the ones used for e.g. device
files. Sure, technically they are the same, but the policy when to
use the translator and when to
"B. Douglas Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I noticed my gdb isn't properly finding the oskit sources when I am
> stepping through the kernel. How should the source tree be arranged
> so that it works as expected?
Uhm, I don't know what's the cause of your problem, but did you have a
look a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I was just wondering if text based icq client a.k.a micq has been
> ported to the GNU/HURD system. If it is not, I would like to work on
> it. The problem is that I am a newbie and don't know how to go
> about. I would appreciate some pointers.
Just check the Debian ar
Tobin Fricke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The second question is a consequence of the first: What's the
> easiest way to get a development environment set up in Hurd? I'm
> not too familiar with the Debian package system... but can I, from
> within linux, fetch and cross-install (via dselect?) t
Gerhard Muntingh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 64MB should work fine, if you don't try too much crazy things.
... and if you have enough swap enabled.
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gopika uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> could anyone help regarding the libnetfs routines? all the
> necessary function calls like netfs_init(),netfs_startup and
> netfs_server_loop are given. but the control does not seem to go
> inside the netfs functions.
You could attach gdb at your server a
Massimiliano Cialdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> does lilo boot hurd?
The Hurd can be booted by any boot loader, which supports the
multiboot standard. LILO doesn't.
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Hi there,
just to let you know: there will be some wannabe Hurd hackers at this
year's Chaos Communication Congress[0] in Berlin at the end of
December. Neal will probably give a talk on the Hurd, and we also
plan to organize a "Hurd Workshop".
[0] http://www.ccc.de/congress/2001/
Juanjo Marín <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So I suppose I am using and old bootstrapping, though I am using
> Debian Hurd H1 CDs, with 3.0.15.hurd-H , because if I boot for the
> first time with
[...]
> I've got stuck in
[...]
Yes, that's possible, that these CDs don't support the new method yet.
Neals guide is more uptodate, so the commands found in that guide
should be used.
Recently the bootstrapping changed a bit. Previously we used
'serverboot', which took care of starting the server for the root
filesystem and the exec server. Therefore only serverboot was given
as a multiboot modu
ixbiff is also Linux specific.
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>From a quick look it seems that tcpspy is not worth porting to
GNU/Hurd, since it uses information from /proc to watch out for TCP
connections.
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Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[GNU Mach hangs during boot while trying to detect a NE NIC]
IIRC you are not the first one having this problem. Try to compile
GNU Mach yourself, with only the NIC driver you need enabled and see
wether that works.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Möller) writes:
> I guess this is a case where the translator needs to use its
> underlying node.
Yes.
> And passing /usr/lib on the command line is probably not the right
> way to tell it to do that.
I think, using a port to the underlying node as returned by
netfs_sta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Möller) writes:
> Or give the brand new shadowfs a try...
Something like: "settrans -afg /usr/lib /hurd/shadowfs /usr/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib" doesn't work, yet. The lookups under /usr/lib don't
work in that case.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Then I try to launch "/etc/init.d/xdm start"[1] which complained
> that it can not load libXpm.so.4, file does not exist . (startx
> command complained of lack of libXmuu.so.4)
>
> I have a look and those files were well installed by xlibs package
> and ther are links.
tainer told me that the patch has been forwarded to the
upstream maintainers, but I haven't heard anything back from
them. I'll ask him about that.
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"In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe yo
you want to operate on. Since you
(probably) installed your isofs translator on /cdrom, you have to
specify that node to remove the translator. Also, hd2 is Grub
notation, not GNU/Hurd notation, so this seems wrong, too.
hth,
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stem
fetch all the packages your GNU/Hurd system needs onto a shared
store. Then you can install them from GNU/Hurd providing that store as
an APT cache.
hth,
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figuration?
Hmm. Marcus has written a program which manipulates the keyboard
layout and a script, which feeds that program with a layout map. It
can be found at
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/contrib/marcus/keymap.tar.gz.
> Do you think I should go on with it?
I think it would be useful.
rface generator `MiG'.
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first last <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where can I find a tutorial or enough information to be able to
> start coding for HURD?
You'll find much helpful information at
http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~ogi/hurd/.
hth,
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Glenn Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi,
> Where do I go to get HURD deb packages.
/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-hurd-i386/Packages.gz lists the packages
in the Debian GNU/Hurd distribution, including a
"Filename: " field.
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-exec rm -f -- {} \;
+cp /dev/null utmp
+if grep -q ^utmp: /etc/group
+then
+ chmod 664 utmp
+ chgrp utmp utmp
+fi; })
fi
+
echo done
# This file must exist for e2fsck to work. XXX
bye,
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Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi,
> FWIW, I've filed a bug with patch against e2fsprogs for the "all disks
> are mounted paranoia".
Have a look at
http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-hurd/2001-June/004647.html.
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a normal hard disk partition, or an NFS server), which
it will automatically mount and umount for you if necessary.
[...]
So, if you don't need it, you can safely remove it from the package
list in cross-install.
hth,
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to use two dashes, not only
one.
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ut, now, i really don't know wether it would be better to write
'Uebersetzer' or 'Translator'... :-/
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BTW: New version is there. It contains minor improvements and is now
better splitted into paragraphes...
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think about it and
wether it's ready for publishing at http://www.pro-linux.de. :)
One question: Should I use "Translatoren" or "Translators"? I thought
"Translatoren" would be used in german Hurd documentation...
bye and thanks,
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translators. Translators get installed/removed with 'settrans' - there
are some very good documents explaining them (see
http://hurddocs.sourceforge.net/).
hth,
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there are many parts, which could be written better.
The URL where you get the current snapshot is:
http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/hurd-artikel.html.
Thank you,
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/devices/floppy to /dev/fd0 and had your floppy drive available
as /dev/fd0. What do you think about it? Is it practical?
This would also make the Hurd more independent from the underlying
micro kernel, because it comes with its own device drivers.
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people with a
ne2000 card have reported that Hurd hangs at this point. Do you have
such a card?
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n which doesn't
change regularly. I mean, now we use GNUmach and there are plans to
use another Mach implementation. But, should we continue using Mach?
Note: This is in no ways a flame to the GNUmach developers.
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Daniel Mattner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - /hurd/pfinet -i=eth0 -a .. -g .. -m .. - Translator died
Hmm, the '...=bar' syntax is only for long style options, isn't it?
So, try '--interface=eth0' or '-i eth0'.
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kill X?
Could somebody please explain me, what threads exactly are? I thought,
they were just somehing like processes, but this can't be.. (?).
Then, why is it unexpected that pflocal gets so many threads?
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4.1 Can I run Linux binaries on GNU Hurd?
Currently, this is not possible. On the other hand, there are quite
a few people who really want to make this work, so it is likely to
happen in the near future.
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reported, that Hurd won't boot (crash at this step), when
their ne2000 card was plugged in. I don't remember how to solve this
problem, try searching in the mailinglist archives...
hth,
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Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And to create the filesystem, I'm using the potato's e2fs utils with:
>mke2fs /dev/hdb1 -O sparse_super -o none -L HURD
ehm, this should be 'mke2fs /dev/hdb1 -O sparse_super -o hurd' (?).
does this help?
mori
/alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-hurd-i386/x11,
right?
bye,
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On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 09:27:00AM -0500, Neal H Walfield wrote:
> X/2MB Ram + X/2MB swap is an order of magnitude more stable than XMB
> Ram.
What's BWT the reason for that?
Is swap something "special" under the Hurd? Not just an extension to
the core?
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appears and then the telnet process
hangs. -- BUT, if i type 'telnet 192.168.0.2 23' the issue appears and
i get a login prompt (but, the keyboard is quiet broken here)...
can somebody explain it to me?
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artition, it reports every (?) file and dir as
broken...
where could the problem be?
how can i help fixing it?
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