Re: libgtop2

2005-05-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Wed, 11 May 2005 01:41:31 +0200, Manuel Menal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - I can't find a way to get statistics about CPU usage > (user/sys/kernel times, etc.), > i.e. what you get in /proc/stat with Linux. Check out libps, which is part of the Hurd. > - I did not find a clean way

Re: More packages

2005-04-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Sat, 16 Apr 2005 08:18:30 -0400, Barry deFreese wrote: > libgpg-error - Problem with mkerrcodes.awk. Submitted to alioth with no > patch yet. I'm upstream maintainer of that, will look at it soon. It's a bit of a mess, unfortunately, but I already tried to make it so that it will work on the

Re: More hurd packages

2005-03-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:55:13 +0100, Physicman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also got libgpg-error-1.0 to build, but it required some ugly > modification, because, apparently, gcc -E doesn't give the same kind of > output on the Hurd as on GNU/Linux. That's evil. I wrote libgpg-error, so I know h

Re: heads up

2005-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:35:57 +0100, Alfred M Szmidt wrote: > Me, Gianluca and Stallman. When I say "the GNU system" then I mean a > release of the actualy system, not the whole GNU project. And I think > you misintepreted that to mean the whole GNU project. > >I thought, there rest of the pe

Re: heads up

2005-03-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:57:33 +0100, Alfred M Szmidt wrote: > >That might not be a bad thing anyway, but it would be more work and >a change. > > The work needed would be minimal, and I doubt you would need any > changes. There has always been a seperate archive where Debian > GNU/Hurd ha

Re: heads up

2005-03-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At 16 Mar 2005 14:35:43 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Does this mean eternally, or only for one week? Who is going to > > verify this? > > Verification isn't the point; if people can't be trusted not to lie, > then everything is broken already. But what it means actually, is > uncertain.

Re: heads up

2005-03-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, I am not even trying to comprehend where these rules come from, or what their sanity is. I am just going to accept whatever comes out of the Debian cabal as long as I can morally accept it. At 16 Mar 2005 11:04:39 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > 1. the architecture must be freely usable

Re: RfC: Hurd console by default

2005-03-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:12:00 +0100, Alfred M Szmidt wrote: > >The point is that you actually want to break out of it if you are >indeed in an infinite loop. > > This isn't really related to when console-client starts dieing, and > you get into a infinite loop, but it would be nice when yo

Re: RfC: Hurd console by default

2005-03-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:58:05 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > 1. It's sort of a hack. See > http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/marcus_azeem_console_login.txt for some > discussion on how this should be done properly. It also means running > e.g. xdm will be painful/not possible as the Hurd console gets

Re: RfC: Hurd console by default

2005-03-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:37:50 +, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > Assuming you are only interested in avoiding resource consumption due > to the high restart rate, you could just sleep for 5 seconds or so > before restarting the console. Something like: > > while : > do > start_hurd_console >

Re: Link Broken

2005-03-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, this is probably ok, although I have reservations. Specifically, I am not sure anybody is really maintaining the Debian GNU/Hurd web page. I would feel much better about just referring to the Debian web page if I knew that somebody has an eye on it. Any volunteers on the Debian side to give

Re: tcpdump-3.8.3

2005-02-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:57:06 -0800, Barry deFreese wrote: > +#if defined(__GNU__) > +# define MAXHOSTNAMELEN 64 > +#endif tcpdump. print-atalk.c uses MAXHOSTNAMELEN this way: char nambuf[MAXHOSTNAMELEN + 20]; ... getting lines from "/etc/atalk.names" into ... char line[

Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At 21 Jan 2005 19:31:13 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > UTF-8 is an insanely complex standard, if you start to look down its > > depths. > > UTF-8 is a complex standard. It is not insanely s

Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At 21 Jan 2005 18:58:41 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Irregardless of what you think about it - the > > western world doesn't need it (where ISO 8859-1 or 15 is enough). > > If only this were true.

Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, Ok, so I am not the quickest to respond... At Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:39:06 +0200, Patrick Strasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CC-ing bug-hurd > Ognyan Kulev wrote: > > Patrick Strasser wrote: > > > >> Unicode did not work until i set it to > >> /hurd/console --encoding=UTF-8 > >> via > >> set

Re: reboot complains about /dev/initctl

2004-06-23 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:17:31 +0300, Ognyan Kulev wrote: > > /* Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ > > Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > > Recall that the ones in the Hurd don't do funky sysvinit magic. > > Infatc, reboot for us is essentially a call to reboot(). > > (Shame smiley here) I forgot about that (the fu

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd presence at LinuxTag

2004-06-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:35:15 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:27:36AM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > >I'll be around at LinuxTag, giving a presentation on Debian > >GNU/Hurd during Debian Day (Thursday). > > > > Would be nice to post this on hurd.gnu.org... Jus

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd presence at LinuxTag

2004-06-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:27:36 +0200, ams wrote: > >I'll be around at LinuxTag, giving a presentation on Debian >GNU/Hurd during Debian Day (Thursday). > > Would be nice to post this on hurd.gnu.org... Just to have _something_ > new! > > Marcus, you there? I'd do this in a jiffy if I had c

Re: Bug#251561: Read error when configuring timezone

2004-06-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:03:40 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 01:12:20PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > This is definitely a new one. Looks like glibc breakage to me. But > > if tzconfig works later on, it might be a more subtle probl

Re: Bug#251561: Read error when configuring timezone

2004-06-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:19:14 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > See http://bugs.debian.org/251561 This is definitely a new one. Looks like glibc breakage to me. But if tzconfig works later on, it might be a more subtle problem. Definitely worth taking a closer look. On the rant issue, I don't think t

Forward: Link update in Debian/Hurd website

2004-05-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, can somebody take care of this? Thanks, Marcus --- Begin Message --- Hi, just noticed that in the page : http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-contact the URL of Kernel Cousin has changed and is now : http://www.kerneltraffic.org/debian-hurd/latest.html Cordially, Patrice Jaeck --- End

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd sources.list

2004-03-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:31:38 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian unreleased main > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main Thanks a lot for doing this! I installed Debian GNU/Hurd recently, and used your packages, and it worked out ok. Marcus

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd K5 on bochs (network problem and gnumach recompilation)

2004-03-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Sat, 6 Mar 2004 18:51:50 -0800, Obi wrote: > > I've seen previous email about running Hurd on Bochs: by then I already > managed to install Hurd K5 on bochs 2.1.1 (discovered to use 2.1.1 > thanks to this mailing list :)). > > Everything seems to works (slowly but) fine, a part from the netwo

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd on bochs

2004-02-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:14:05 +0100, > 3. Making a filesystem > (you need to be root to do that) > #losetup /dev/loop0 /hurd/hurd.img -o 32256 > (that magical offset value is bytes/sector times > sectors/cylinder, and gives access to the partition we created, keeping > the partition table safe) > #m

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd on qemu

2004-02-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Sun, 29 Feb 2004 05:35:44 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > many people ask how to run Debian GNU/Hurd on bochs. Some people had > success with this, while others had less luck. Here is what I did to > make it work. Thanks to p2, weinholt, Jeroen and the other guys on > IRC, who h

Debian GNU/Hurd on bochs

2004-02-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi guys, many people ask how to run Debian GNU/Hurd on bochs. Some people had success with this, while others had less luck. Here is what I did to make it work. Thanks to p2, weinholt, Jeroen and the other guys on IRC, who helped me out here and there. 1. Setup bochs. You need bochs 2.0.2. B

Re: locales lock locale-archive fail

2004-02-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:22:03 +0600, Dmitry V. Zhulanov wrote: > ru_RU.UTF-8 ...cannot lock locale archive Maybe it tries to perform an unsupported set lock operation. Only whole file locking is supported, and many people tend to lock only the first byte. You have to check out the source co

Re: Hurd is no window manufacturer!

2004-01-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
yptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Call for Papers: FOSDEM 2004: 2nd EMBEDDED SYSTEMS and OPERATING SYSTEMS track

2003-12-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
2nd EMBEDDED SYSTEMS and OPERATING SYSTEMS track at FOSDEM 2004 === 21 - 22 February 2004, Brussels Call for papers --- The 2004 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting; http://www.fosdem.org) wi

Re: [NEWS] "Thomas Bushnell Leaves HURD"

2003-11-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ages equally. This is something that can and is discussed inside and outside of GNU, and everyone can participate in that discussion in the appropriate forum. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd htt

Re: [NEWS] "Thomas Bushnell Leaves HURD"

2003-11-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
consequences to society yourself). Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: GNU-Hurd installation: extracting the base-system fails

2003-11-07 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
re. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: acl: FTBFS on GNU/Hurd

2003-10-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Debian Hurd package

2003-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: attr: FTBFS on GNU/Hurd

2003-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:17:24PM +, Robert Millan wrote: > +#define __USE_XOPEN_EXTENDED Same crap as for acl :) Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/softw

Re: acl: FTBFS on GNU/Hurd

2003-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
be any difference to GNU/Linux. Inspect where the problem lies, and fix the root of it. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Debian Hurd package

2003-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
s their files on those > partitions/floppies and I'd like more testers. :) Agreed. The read-only part is important. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/so

Re: Debian Hurd package

2003-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
if some of you is planning to fix these problems > already, or has any comments. No reason to wait. Just do it. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Use of negated arches for dpkg dependencies

2003-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:14:24PM +, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:12:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > The right solution is of course to be able to specify patterns like > > "*-linux-gnu". > > Yes, but this is a long-t

Re: Use of negated arches for dpkg dependencies

2003-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
to tackle this issue again would be a new archive system for the GNU system, but even for that I wouldn't have much time these days. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/

Re: Use of negated arches for dpkg dependencies

2003-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
the less ugly _today_, I don't see any reason for change. Again, the right solution is to fix this architecture mess once and for all by not using a simple matched string for both the cpu and the OS. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PRO

Re: Re: live cd

2003-10-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ve no answer for you. Then the only thing you can try is to hire people, or try to convince them that it is worthwhile to work on that feature. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: please test libtool 1.5a

2003-09-23 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ol, once released, will cause endless pain and sorrow to anybody building binary packages for Debian GNU/Hurd. Been there, done that, it was not pretty. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The H

Re: GNU K4 images available.

2003-09-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
s is likely very easy to fix with argp, and I am willing to take a look at such a (tested) patch. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hazelnut - Pistachio

2003-09-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
arb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: GNU/Hurd Section on the website

2003-08-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ny detailed answer on that question. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: distribution question

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Newbie docs

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
t;Please use the term Free Software to encourage thinking about the freedom of the software" instead "don't say Open Source". Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd advocacy? Bootable (Knoppix-like) CD?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:40:46PM +0200, Niels M?ller wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, I think that the above procedure is mostly useful for diskless > > booting. For the CD Rom, a unionfs seems to be the better approach to me, >

Re: Hurd advocacy? Bootable (Knoppix-like) CD?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
eems to be the better approach to me, as it saves a lot of RAM. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Bootable (Knoppix-like) CD -- ramdisks

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
2? Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Bootable (Knoppix-like) CD -- ramdisks

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
t need to hack mkisofs. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd advocacy? Bootable (Knoppix-like) CD?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
n a uniform memory. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
-- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:38:54PM +0200, PUYDT Julien wrote: > Le lun 18/08/2003 à 15:57, Marcus Brinkmann a écrit : > > L4 does not have any device drivers. Some people are working on a new > > device driver infrastructure for GNU Hurd/L4, and drivers for that > > infrast

ReRe: Improving the (web) content

2003-08-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
. Be sure that I'll be adding any problems I get during install > to an Installation FAQ though Writing down the problems that you are experiencing yourself is certainly one of the best ways to get started. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.g

Improving the (web) content (was: Re: Hurd advocacy?

2003-08-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
niversities/technical colleges then there's the > potential for an entire generation of software engineers/programmers to at > least be aware of the Hurd even if only 1% of that number actually get > involved. Feel free to shoot me down in flames/tell me to stop prolonging > this time consuming thread. Thanks, > > Mark > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
a better deal in negotiations. You have to choose your fights carefully. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
atures that you'd expect from a modern OS. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:38:33PM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > So you see, it is not about L4, but about glueing Hurd to L4. Mach did a > > lot of things for us that L4 is not doing, and we take the chance to try to > > more consequently

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
want it, freedom to use the IPC policy you want, and the freedom to have functional device drivers without getting them approved by a kernel master geek ;) Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd ht

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ink that RMS maybe was on the edge of giving up on the Hurd, but we were able to demonstrate that the Hurd is somewhat working as a prototype and is worth working on and supporting. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ma

Re: Hurd Advocacy? (Hazelnut Announcement)

2003-08-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 06:10:35PM +0100, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: > Should I ask DWN for a correction? It's not important. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ped in since then) are targetting the big rewrite of the Hurd. But we are "new" in the OS writing business, and have to learn a lot of things, and solve problems for which cookbooks do not exist. So while we are trying to do that, who is fixing mount? Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: MD5 passwords

2003-08-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
gyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
n god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Hurd Advocacy?

2003-08-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
other way some time in the future. Hopefully we will then be able to profit from that. But that requires us to find answers to questions so we can offer them to interested parties at that time. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTE

Re: HURD kernel change

2003-08-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ld be a usability boost (I am thinking of random device, Wagi's serial device drivers, etc). Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hurd CD images have disappeared.]

2003-08-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
recover them. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: default CPU target for ix86 based ports

2003-08-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 01:13:18AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann writes: > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 10:05:13AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > IIRC the Hurd can be built for i586 only, so it could be used as the > > > default target CPU as well.

Re: default CPU target for ix86 based ports

2003-08-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
side. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: MD5 passwords

2003-08-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
nderstand debian. I think that nobody ever thought about it. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: a simple dmesg

2003-08-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 02:36:52PM +0100, Bob Ham wrote: > On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 09:17, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 03:44:17PM +0100, Bob Ham wrote: > > > dmesgd sits on /dev/klog and stores up its output. it also listens > > > to an AF_UNI

Re: a simple dmesg

2003-08-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
tter than syslogd? Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: a simple dmesg

2003-08-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
y not. I can elaborate later why (in short: our klog is flushed by reading, and reserved for syslog, second, it works around bugs that must be fixed). Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http

Re: K4

2003-07-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
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Re: K4

2003-07-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
so remove pthreads from the Debian Hurd package. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd crossinstaller: "crosshurd"

2003-07-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
; it when I get some spare time. I think it is rather that we allow a larger range than POSIX, and that although raising works, lowering doesn't. Or something like that. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkm

Re: Package list

2003-07-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
pages reporting on source and binary version. Maybe check it out, if you want (it's sorta discontinued and a bit slow, though). Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.o

Re: eth0: Via Rhine

2003-07-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0200, Jochen wrote: > $ MIG=/usr/bin/i386-gnu-mig CC=/usr/bin/i386-gnu-gcc ./configure add "--build i386-linux --host i386-gnu" here. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd crossinstaller: "crosshurd"

2003-07-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:46:23PM +0200, Marco Gerards wrote: > Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Another problem right now is the translator vs. tarring up /dev stuff. > > > What are you going to do about this? With Marco's patch floating > > > around, wouldn't it make sense to tal

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd crossinstaller: "crosshurd"

2003-07-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 06:34:31PM +, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 04:22:57AM -0700, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > > > I will do up a new Hurd package by the end of debcamp/debconf which has > > some libdiskfs fixes and such. Some brave soul could take on 44039. It > > looks about

Re: Bug#187309: weird linker problem (was: Re: Must NOT link with pthread)

2003-07-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:54:20PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > libgcrypt is just an example that is probably a good test case; we don't > know where it belongs exactly but the bug affects Xfree86 and other > packages. I still don't believe in the slightest that this is the same bug until I ha

Re: mouse device

2003-07-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 08:17:13AM +0200, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 12:43:50AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > btw, you upstream CVS people could please commit the mouse/kbd patch > >

Re: mouse device

2003-07-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 12:43:50AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > btw, you upstream CVS people could please commit the mouse/kbd patch > from the debian hurd_*.diff.gz? No, it's just a horrid hack. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL P

Re: compiler/linker isssues

2003-06-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
he config files and all the usual information included of course. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: why was um-pppd removed?

2003-06-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
what you suggest: The traditional userland (um-pppd) is not maintained by us, and we provide a compatible interface in the Hurd. We just don't use the Linux approach but the BSD approach, which is more in line with our design. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU

Re: why was um-pppd removed?

2003-06-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
e, you'll just have to reintroduce um-pppd and have fun. If that would be easier for Debian, I would agree. However, removing and adding packages are expensive for Debian, as they require manual work. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAI

Re: need help with Xfree86

2003-05-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
YES > #define HasSnprintf YES > #define HasMkstemp YES -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: weird linker problem (was: Re: Must NOT link with pthread)

2003-05-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
). This is also true on GNU, but I suspect that the NEEDED entry for std++ is missing in the C++ library. Now you have to look at the build rules for this library to see why. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann

Re: compiler/linker isssues

2003-05-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 04:39:42PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 05:22:31PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > A complete build log. If possible, the whole build three somewhere, that > > allows me to look at the actual object files. Then y

Re: compiler/linker isssues

2003-05-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
h more important than to get the latest version of X running with hacks. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Must NOT link with pthread

2003-05-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 05:15:59PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I think that 185536 (xft2) might be a genuine bug (although I can not check > without the X sources), while the others probably are not. g++ should > always add libstdc++ automatically for C++ programs. It sounds st

compiler/linker isssues

2003-05-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
s -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Must NOT link with pthread

2003-05-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
++ should always add libstdc++ automatically for C++ programs. > Marcus, i'm unable to debug this. please could you have it a look and > try to find out the problem? I will follow up. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcu

Re: Micro$oft to licence UNIX from SCO

2003-05-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
olitical discussions, > but this is realy off-topic here. debian-hurd is for porting and > development of the Debian GNU/Hurd distribution. > > maybe move to help-hurd? Is that like help-god! ? ;) Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL P

Re: Micro$oft to licence UNIX from SCO

2003-05-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
d and other GNU sources is fully accounted for, though. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: x-window-system

2003-05-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
onsole client should terminate itself and correctly clean up behind itself. Unless we need Marcos patch to get the right thread killing the console. It did work for me in the past, though. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus

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