At Wed, 11 May 2005 01:41:31 +0200,
Manuel Menal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - I can't find a way to get statistics about CPU usage
> (user/sys/kernel times, etc.),
> i.e. what you get in /proc/stat with Linux.
Check out libps, which is part of the Hurd.
> - I did not find a clean way
At Sat, 16 Apr 2005 08:18:30 -0400,
Barry deFreese wrote:
> libgpg-error - Problem with mkerrcodes.awk. Submitted to alioth with no
> patch yet.
I'm upstream maintainer of that, will look at it soon. It's a bit of
a mess, unfortunately, but I already tried to make it so that it will
work on the
At Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:55:13 +0100,
Physicman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also got libgpg-error-1.0 to build, but it required some ugly
> modification, because, apparently, gcc -E doesn't give the same kind of
> output on the Hurd as on GNU/Linux.
That's evil. I wrote libgpg-error, so I know h
At Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:35:57 +0100,
Alfred M Szmidt wrote:
> Me, Gianluca and Stallman. When I say "the GNU system" then I mean a
> release of the actualy system, not the whole GNU project. And I think
> you misintepreted that to mean the whole GNU project.
>
>I thought, there rest of the pe
At Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:57:33 +0100,
Alfred M Szmidt wrote:
>
>That might not be a bad thing anyway, but it would be more work and
>a change.
>
> The work needed would be minimal, and I doubt you would need any
> changes. There has always been a seperate archive where Debian
> GNU/Hurd ha
At 16 Mar 2005 14:35:43 -0800,
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Does this mean eternally, or only for one week? Who is going to
> > verify this?
>
> Verification isn't the point; if people can't be trusted not to lie,
> then everything is broken already. But what it means actually, is
> uncertain.
Hi,
I am not even trying to comprehend where these rules come from, or
what their sanity is. I am just going to accept whatever comes out of
the Debian cabal as long as I can morally accept it.
At 16 Mar 2005 11:04:39 -0800,
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> 1. the architecture must be freely usable
At Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:12:00 +0100,
Alfred M Szmidt wrote:
>
>The point is that you actually want to break out of it if you are
>indeed in an infinite loop.
>
> This isn't really related to when console-client starts dieing, and
> you get into a infinite loop, but it would be nice when yo
At Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:58:05 +0100,
Michael Banck wrote:
> 1. It's sort of a hack. See
> http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/marcus_azeem_console_login.txt for some
> discussion on how this should be done properly. It also means running
> e.g. xdm will be painful/not possible as the Hurd console gets
At Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:37:50 +,
Neal H. Walfield wrote:
> Assuming you are only interested in avoiding resource consumption due
> to the high restart rate, you could just sleep for 5 seconds or so
> before restarting the console. Something like:
>
> while :
> do
> start_hurd_console
>
Hi,
this is probably ok, although I have reservations. Specifically, I am
not sure anybody is really maintaining the Debian GNU/Hurd web page.
I would feel much better about just referring to the Debian web page
if I knew that somebody has an eye on it.
Any volunteers on the Debian side to give
At Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:57:06 -0800,
Barry deFreese wrote:
> +#if defined(__GNU__)
> +# define MAXHOSTNAMELEN 64
> +#endif
tcpdump.
print-atalk.c uses MAXHOSTNAMELEN this way:
char nambuf[MAXHOSTNAMELEN + 20];
... getting lines from "/etc/atalk.names" into ...
char line[
At 21 Jan 2005 19:31:13 -0800,
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > UTF-8 is an insanely complex standard, if you start to look down its
> > depths.
>
> UTF-8 is a complex standard. It is not insanely s
At 21 Jan 2005 18:58:41 -0800,
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Irregardless of what you think about it - the
> > western world doesn't need it (where ISO 8859-1 or 15 is enough).
>
> If only this were true.
Hi,
Ok, so I am not the quickest to respond...
At Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:39:06 +0200,
Patrick Strasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CC-ing bug-hurd
> Ognyan Kulev wrote:
> > Patrick Strasser wrote:
> >
> >> Unicode did not work until i set it to
> >> /hurd/console --encoding=UTF-8
> >> via
> >> set
At Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:17:31 +0300,
Ognyan Kulev wrote:
>
> /* Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
>
> Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> > Recall that the ones in the Hurd don't do funky sysvinit magic.
> > Infatc, reboot for us is essentially a call to reboot().
>
> (Shame smiley here) I forgot about that (the fu
At Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:35:15 +0200,
Michael Banck wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 05:27:36AM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> >I'll be around at LinuxTag, giving a presentation on Debian
> >GNU/Hurd during Debian Day (Thursday).
> >
> > Would be nice to post this on hurd.gnu.org... Jus
At Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:27:36 +0200,
ams wrote:
>
>I'll be around at LinuxTag, giving a presentation on Debian
>GNU/Hurd during Debian Day (Thursday).
>
> Would be nice to post this on hurd.gnu.org... Just to have _something_
> new!
>
> Marcus, you there? I'd do this in a jiffy if I had c
At Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:03:40 +0200,
Robert Millan wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 01:12:20PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >
> > This is definitely a new one. Looks like glibc breakage to me. But
> > if tzconfig works later on, it might be a more subtle probl
At Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:19:14 +0200,
Robert Millan wrote:
> See http://bugs.debian.org/251561
This is definitely a new one. Looks like glibc breakage to me. But
if tzconfig works later on, it might be a more subtle problem.
Definitely worth taking a closer look.
On the rant issue, I don't think t
Hi,
can somebody take care of this?
Thanks,
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--- Begin Message ---
Hi,
just noticed that in the page :
http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-contact
the URL of Kernel Cousin has changed and is now :
http://www.kerneltraffic.org/debian-hurd/latest.html
Cordially,
Patrice Jaeck
--- End
At Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:31:38 +0100,
Guillem Jover wrote:
>
> deb http://ftp.gnuab.org/debian unreleased main
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main
Thanks a lot for doing this! I installed Debian GNU/Hurd recently,
and used your packages, and it worked out ok.
Marcus
At Sat, 6 Mar 2004 18:51:50 -0800,
Obi wrote:
>
> I've seen previous email about running Hurd on Bochs: by then I already
> managed to install Hurd K5 on bochs 2.1.1 (discovered to use 2.1.1
> thanks to this mailing list :)).
>
> Everything seems to works (slowly but) fine, a part from the netwo
At Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:14:05 +0100,
> 3. Making a filesystem
> (you need to be root to do that)
> #losetup /dev/loop0 /hurd/hurd.img -o 32256
> (that magical offset value is bytes/sector times
> sectors/cylinder, and gives access to the partition we created, keeping
> the partition table safe)
> #m
At Sun, 29 Feb 2004 05:35:44 +0100,
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> many people ask how to run Debian GNU/Hurd on bochs. Some people had
> success with this, while others had less luck. Here is what I did to
> make it work. Thanks to p2, weinholt, Jeroen and the other guys on
> IRC, who h
Hi guys,
many people ask how to run Debian GNU/Hurd on bochs. Some people had
success with this, while others had less luck. Here is what I did to
make it work. Thanks to p2, weinholt, Jeroen and the other guys on
IRC, who helped me out here and there.
1. Setup bochs.
You need bochs 2.0.2. B
At Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:22:03 +0600,
Dmitry V. Zhulanov wrote:
> ru_RU.UTF-8 ...cannot lock locale archive
Maybe it tries to perform an unsupported set lock operation. Only
whole file locking is supported, and many people tend to lock only the
first byte. You have to check out the source co
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===
21 - 22 February 2004, Brussels
Call for papers
---
The 2004 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European
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ages equally. This is something that can and is discussed inside and
outside of GNU, and everyone can participate in that discussion in the
appropriate forum.
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:17:24PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> +#define __USE_XOPEN_EXTENDED
Same crap as for acl :)
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be any difference to GNU/Linux. Inspect where the
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s their files on those
> partitions/floppies and I'd like more testers. :)
Agreed. The read-only part is important.
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if some of you is planning to fix these problems
> already, or has any comments.
No reason to wait. Just do it.
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On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:14:24PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:12:12PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >
> > The right solution is of course to be able to specify patterns like
> > "*-linux-gnu".
>
> Yes, but this is a long-t
to tackle this issue again would be
a new archive system for the GNU system, but even for that I wouldn't have
much time these days.
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the less ugly _today_, I
don't see any reason for change.
Again, the right solution is to fix this architecture mess once and for all
by not using a simple matched string for both the cpu and the OS.
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thing you can try is to hire people, or try to convince them that it is
worthwhile to work on that feature.
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ol,
once released, will cause endless pain and sorrow to anybody building binary
packages for Debian GNU/Hurd. Been there, done that, it was not pretty.
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t;Please use the term Free Software to
encourage thinking about the freedom of the software" instead "don't say
Open Source".
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:40:46PM +0200, Niels M?ller wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Well, I think that the above procedure is mostly useful for diskless
> > booting. For the CD Rom, a unionfs seems to be the better approach to me,
>
eems to be the better approach to me,
as it saves a lot of RAM.
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t need to hack mkisofs.
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n a uniform memory.
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On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:38:54PM +0200, PUYDT Julien wrote:
> Le lun 18/08/2003 à 15:57, Marcus Brinkmann a écrit :
> > L4 does not have any device drivers. Some people are working on a new
> > device driver infrastructure for GNU Hurd/L4, and drivers for that
> > infrast
. Be sure that I'll be adding any problems I get during install
> to an Installation FAQ though
Writing down the problems that you are experiencing yourself is certainly
one of the best ways to get started.
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niversities/technical colleges then there's the
> potential for an entire generation of software engineers/programmers to at
> least be aware of the Hurd even if only 1% of that number actually get
> involved. Feel free to shoot me down in flames/tell me to stop prolonging
> this time consuming thread. Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
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atures that you'd expect from a modern OS.
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:38:33PM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > So you see, it is not about L4, but about glueing Hurd to L4. Mach did a
> > lot of things for us that L4 is not doing, and we take the chance to try to
> > more consequently
want it, freedom to
use the IPC policy you want, and the freedom to have functional device
drivers without getting them approved by a kernel master geek ;)
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On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 06:10:35PM +0100, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote:
> Should I ask DWN for a correction?
It's not important.
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ped in since then)
are targetting the big rewrite of the Hurd. But we are "new" in the OS
writing business, and have to learn a lot of things, and solve problems for
which cookbooks do not exist.
So while we are trying to do that, who is fixing mount?
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other way some time in the
future. Hopefully we will then be able to profit from that. But that
requires us to find answers to questions so we can offer them to interested
parties at that time.
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ld be a usability boost (I
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recover them.
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On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 01:13:18AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann writes:
> > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 10:05:13AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > > IIRC the Hurd can be built for i586 only, so it could be used as the
> > > default target CPU as well.
side.
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nderstand debian.
I think that nobody ever thought about it.
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On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 02:36:52PM +0100, Bob Ham wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 09:17, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 03:44:17PM +0100, Bob Ham wrote:
> > > dmesgd sits on /dev/klog and stores up its output. it also listens
> > > to an AF_UNI
tter than syslogd?
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y not. I can elaborate later why (in short: our klog is flushed by
reading, and reserved for syslog, second, it works around bugs that must be
fixed).
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so remove pthreads from the Debian Hurd package.
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; it when I get some spare time.
I think it is rather that we allow a larger range than POSIX, and that
although raising works, lowering doesn't. Or something like that.
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reporting on source and binary version. Maybe check it out, if you want
(it's sorta discontinued and a bit slow, though).
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0200, Jochen wrote:
> $ MIG=/usr/bin/i386-gnu-mig CC=/usr/bin/i386-gnu-gcc ./configure
add "--build i386-linux --host i386-gnu" here.
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> Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Another problem right now is the translator vs. tarring up /dev stuff.
> > > What are you going to do about this? With Marco's patch floating
> > > around, wouldn't it make sense to tal
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 06:34:31PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 04:22:57AM -0700, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> >
> > I will do up a new Hurd package by the end of debcamp/debconf which has
> > some libdiskfs fixes and such. Some brave soul could take on 44039. It
> > looks about
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:54:20PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
>
> libgcrypt is just an example that is probably a good test case; we don't
> know where it belongs exactly but the bug affects Xfree86 and other
> packages.
I still don't believe in the slightest that this is the same bug until
I ha
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 08:17:13AM +0200, Johannes Rohr wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 12:43:50AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > btw, you upstream CVS people could please commit the mouse/kbd patch
> >
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 12:43:50AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> btw, you upstream CVS people could please commit the mouse/kbd patch
> from the debian hurd_*.diff.gz?
No, it's just a horrid hack.
Marcus
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he config files and all the usual information included of course.
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what you suggest: The traditional userland (um-pppd) is not
maintained by us, and we provide a compatible interface in the Hurd. We
just don't use the Linux approach but the BSD approach, which is more in
line with our design.
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e, you'll just have to reintroduce um-pppd and have fun.
If that would be easier for Debian, I would agree. However, removing and
adding packages are expensive for Debian, as they require manual work.
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YES
> #define HasSnprintf YES
> #define HasMkstemp YES
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). This is also true on GNU, but I
suspect that the NEEDED entry for std++ is missing in the C++ library.
Now you have to look at the build rules for this library to see why.
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On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 04:39:42PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 05:22:31PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >
> > A complete build log. If possible, the whole build three somewhere, that
> > allows me to look at the actual object files. Then y
h more important
than to get the latest version of X running with hacks.
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On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 05:15:59PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> I think that 185536 (xft2) might be a genuine bug (although I can not check
> without the X sources), while the others probably are not. g++ should
> always add libstdc++ automatically for C++ programs.
It sounds st
s
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++ should
always add libstdc++ automatically for C++ programs.
> Marcus, i'm unable to debug this. please could you have it a look and
> try to find out the problem?
I will follow up.
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olitical discussions,
> but this is realy off-topic here. debian-hurd is for porting and
> development of the Debian GNU/Hurd distribution.
>
> maybe move to help-hurd?
Is that like help-god! ?
;)
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d and other GNU sources is fully accounted for,
though.
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onsole client
should terminate itself and correctly clean up behind itself.
Unless we need Marcos patch to get the right thread killing the console. It
did work for me in the past, though.
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