On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:03:25PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> You should avoid upgrading your apt package to 0.9.15.1: it
> unconditionally uses futimens, which is not supported on hurd-any, and
> apparently not on kfreebsd-any either.
Since glibc has been upgraded to support the
Samuel Thibault, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 19:55:02 +0100, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:29:09 +0100, a écrit :
> > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:24:40 +0100, a écrit :
> > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samuel Thibault
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Graphical mode boots then sw
Samuel Thibault, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:29:09 +0100, a écrit :
> Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:24:40 +0100, a écrit :
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samuel Thibault
> > wrote:
> > >> Graphical mode boots then switches to 1024x768 black screen.
> > >
> > > Thus needs investigation.
>
Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:44:17 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:39 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:36:49 +0100, a écrit :
> > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:18 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:
Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:36:49 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:18 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:5
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:39 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:36:49 +0100, a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:18 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel
Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:33:47 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:5
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:18 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:56:18 +0100, a écrit :
> >
> > > > Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical,
Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:34:22 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > If not quick enough, default install boot starts.
> >
> > And is *that* producing scrambled screen output?
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > If not quick enough, default install boot starts.
>
> And is *that* producing scrambled screen output?
No everything is normal after that.
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On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:56:18 +0100, a écrit :
> >
> > > > Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical,
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 13:17 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've rebuilt the installation CDs and the preinstalled qemu image.
Today we (AliciaC) found out on IRC that mounting e.g. the Hurd qemu
image under linux >3.10-x and directly unmounting it creates a corrupted
file system. The
Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:24:40 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samuel Thibault
> wrote:
> >> Graphical mode boots then switches to 1024x768 black screen.
> >
> > Thus needs investigation.
> >
> >> Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical, rescue) once selected, switch to
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samuel Thibault
wrote:
>> Graphical mode boots then switches to 1024x768 black screen.
>
> Thus needs investigation.
>
>> Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical, rescue) once selected, switch to a
>> resolution my monitor can't show.
>
> Uh? What does the monitor say ex
Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:56:18 +0100, a écrit :
>
> > > Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical, rescue) once selected, switch to a
> > > resolution my monitor can't
Samuel Thibault, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:16:40 +0100, a écrit :
> Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > If not quick enough, default install boot starts.
>
> And is *that* producing scrambled screen output?
(I mean the installation process, not the grub entry)
Samuel
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Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> If not quick enough, default install boot starts.
And is *that* producing scrambled screen output?
Samuel
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Svante Signell, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 17:13:59 +0100, a écrit :
> On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:56:18 +0100, a écrit :
>
> > > Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical, rescue) once selected, switch to a
> > > resolution my monitor can't
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 17:02 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:56:18 +0100, a écrit :
> > Remaining ones (pseudo-graphical, rescue) once selected, switch to a
> > resolution my monitor can't show.
>
> Uh? What does the monitor say exactly?
When booting with
Gabriele Giacone, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 16:56:18 +0100, a écrit :
> CD player is SATA and it can't see it. Attaching an old IDE one,
> everything seems fine.
> Any way to make it working?
I don't remember how SATA CDs are supposed to look like. Most probably
it is a matter of lightly patching the AHC
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Samuel Thibault
wrote:
> Samuel Thibault, le Wed 12 Feb 2014 00:13:18 +0100, a écrit :
>> Samuel Thibault, le Tue 11 Feb 2014 23:37:05 +0100, a écrit :
>> > Gabriele Giacone, le Tue 11 Feb 2014 18:22:43 +0100, a écrit :
>> > > 4 GB RAM.
>> >
>> > It seems there is
On 12/02/14 13:18, Robert Millan wrote:
> Or maybe backward compat? I hear some of the new init implementations
> support SysV.
SysV init scripts?
I thought this was obvious, or maybe I misunderstand what you mean.
*All* of the init systems that were discussed by the TC, even systemd
(for now), c
On 12/02/2014 12:40, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> Although, come jessie+1, I wonder how upgrades will be handled, if
> sysvinit scripts go away.
Maybe Pre-Depends. Or maybe have written instructions to install
the new init by hand, like we often do for kernels.
Or maybe backward compat? I hear som
On 12/02/14 12:23, Robert Millan wrote:
> If we have to support it anyway, is it really worth spending effort on
> Upstart/OpenRC for Jessie?
Right, sysvinit is a viable and easy option for jessie; having any
other init systems working is a bonus.
At least we know now that we need to concentrate
On 12/02/2014 12:09, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> There are a few reasons to keep sysvinit scripts maintained for jessie:
> 1. for smoother upgrades from wheezy
> 2. in order to backport jessie packages to wheezy
> 3. for non-Linux (or non-systemd) ports
>
> So ports are not the only reason. And y
On 12/02/14 10:45, Robert Millan wrote:
> I'm a bit afraid that even if sysvinit itself stays mostly fine, the scripts
> written for
> it could turn into a bunch of bitrot.
There are a few reasons to keep sysvinit scripts maintained for jessie:
1. for smoother upgrades from wheezy
2. in order to
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 10:45 +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On 29/01/2014 09:26, Petr Salinger wrote:
> What is the current status of OpenRC? Is it usable?
I fear that it is currently broken since one of the latest patches. Do
you have a (scrappable) pre-installed image I can download, ala:
http://
On 29/01/2014 09:26, Petr Salinger wrote:
>> 1. stay with sysvinit
>> 2. switch to OpenRC unconditionally
>> 3. switch to Upstart unconditionally
>> 4. switch to Upstart only if Linux uses it by default, otherwise OpenRC
>> 5. further discussion
>>
>> Please rank the above putting your preferred op
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:41 +0800, River C. Chiang wrote:
> May I know where is the link?
cdimage:
http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/cdimage/
preinstalled image: http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/
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May I know where is the link?
Thanks,
River
On 2014-02-12 15:50, aurel...@hackers.guru wrote:
Is there an arm version?
Santi cluke writes:
Where i can get the new rebuilded CDs and QEMU image?
2014-02-11 9:17 GMT-03:00 Samuel Thibault :
Hello,
I've rebuilt the installation CDs and th
Is there an arm version?
Santi cluke writes:
> Where i can get the new rebuilded CDs and QEMU image?
>
>
> 2014-02-11 9:17 GMT-03:00 Samuel Thibault :
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've rebuilt the installation CDs and the preinstalled qemu image.
>>
>> Samuel
>>
>>
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